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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: the caveman on January 31, 2008, 05:58:49 am

Title: 1.9 aaz head on 1.7 na block
Post by: the caveman on January 31, 2008, 05:58:49 am
I've decided on not dropping in a TDI into my 1990 transporter but am collecting parts to turbo/intercool it [ thanks syncroserge]. Am i to understand a 1.9l head will fit onto a 1.6/1.7 l block. I read somewhere the advantage is for the better breathing of the 1.9. Is there a thread some where for this?
Title: 1.9 aaz head on 1.7 na block
Post by: jimfoo on January 31, 2008, 07:24:50 am
I know nothing about a 1.7, but if it is the same as a 1.6, then yes it will fit. It lowers the compression and makes cold starting harder though it might not be as bad on a 1.7 due to the greater volume. They use 12 mm bolts/studs.
Title: 1.9 aaz head on 1.7 na block
Post by: the caveman on January 31, 2008, 10:34:11 am
how much does it compression ? can it be adjusted enough with head gasket thickness if mine oem one was 3 hole?
Maybe i can weld or solder on some material to the top of the pistons :wink:
Title: 1.9 aaz head on 1.7 na block
Post by: MJF on January 31, 2008, 10:42:38 am
1,7 has mech block, so installing 1,9 hydraulic head is a bit more difficult. YouŽll need to block the other oil return hole from head.
Title: 1.9 aaz head on 1.7 na block
Post by: the caveman on January 31, 2008, 11:16:23 am
the head on there now is hydralic. it's a 1990 and im sure vw stopped all mech head production by 88.
Title: 1.9 aaz head on 1.7 na block
Post by: jimfoo on January 31, 2008, 11:30:10 am
Then it would be an easy swap. I don't know how the compression would change, but you can't raise it by going to a thinner head gasket as that is a critical dimension needed to avoid the piston hitting things. You could possibly fill in the reliefs on the pistons, but that would probably hurt swirl and power.
Title: 1.9 aaz head on 1.7 na block
Post by: mdonau on January 31, 2008, 12:19:47 pm
hi,

all diesel-engines in the T3-transporter had mech-heads. (CS, JX, KY)
all other VW/Audi-Engines were hydraulic from the middle  of 1985

but: the KY is a low longblock ;)

means: 79,5 bore with 1,6 con-rods and crank
with some mods a hydraulic head can be mounted..
just open some holes in the Block...

greets, michael
Title: 1.9 aaz head on 1.7 na block
Post by: the caveman on January 31, 2008, 03:49:01 pm
okay MJF and mdonau you are right. I haven't taken off the valve cover yet and there aren't any stickers about adjustment specs under the hood.
i guess i will have to get a 1.6 hydralic block, head and 1.9 head to measure the difference. maybe i'll just stick to the 1.7 head instead.Do you guys in europe which 1.7 blocks have the piston cooler jets?
Title: 1.9 aaz head on 1.7 na block
Post by: RabbitJockey on January 31, 2008, 06:02:58 pm
from what i have read the cold starting isn't really that bad, malone really tried to make a point of that with his hybrid.  and he had even lower compression than just a regular head swap