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Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Baselyne on January 15, 2008, 07:51:04 am
I was wondering if anyone has a list or can remember off hand what the fuses 1-15 are for on the front of a MK1 diesel fuse panel

Im trying to figure out what fuses are blown and what there value and destination are....

I have a bentley and I spent most of the night testing the diagrams im just at a loss for where to find a fuse list in this book anywhere...

maybe Im just tired....someone please

I dont even know which fuse runs the wipers for example
Title: I do beleave I was tired
Post by: Baselyne on January 15, 2008, 08:33:17 am
are they the ones on the top of the current flow diagram under "S 1 thru 15?"

If so are the wipers on fuse S11 for example?
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Jetta Fan on January 15, 2008, 10:19:47 am
I could post the listing for my mkIII, but doubt that would help you any.  :wink:

But I thought the fuse panel cover had the listing stamped (or molded) right into it? It does on my mkIII and I know it did on the mkIIs I had but I can't remember if it was on the mkI or not.

I think it's covered in one of the books I have at home and if it is, I'll try to post it tonight or bring the book to work and post it tomorrow.
Title: something like this
Post by: Baselyne on January 15, 2008, 09:30:04 pm
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/basslyne/blackfusepanel.jpg)


i was wondering what each fuse was for.. 1-15

In the bentley it shows s1 thru 15 at the top in the relay panel portion of the diagram and following it down the current tracks you can see where it's connecting to its corrisonding element

Providing someone doesnt have a bentley but blows fuses where are they going to know which amp fuse and what that fuse is for...? say there missing from a previous owner...!!??

I thought someone could list this into the FAQ, I know it's basic but hey wtf im a newby..
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: burn_your_money on January 16, 2008, 04:36:56 am
I think you are going to have better luck with this one on vortex
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Baselyne on January 16, 2008, 07:24:49 am
wow
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: lord_verminaard on January 16, 2008, 09:02:00 am
I've got the listing at home, if you can wait a while.  :P

Brendan
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Baselyne on January 19, 2008, 06:53:19 am
an still waiting
Title: Re: I do beleave I was tired
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on January 19, 2008, 02:40:41 pm
Quote from: "Baselyne"
are they the ones on the top of the current flow diagram under "S 1 thru 15?"

If so are the wipers on fuse S11 for example?


Yes  for pre 81 at least S11 is for wipers, just work through them for your age of car.The info is all there for you to sort it.
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Baselyne on January 20, 2008, 06:29:43 pm
right on, so which relays are across the top then? How would one know this?

http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rabbitceramicfusesyz5.jpg
Title: relay location
Post by: demolition dave on January 20, 2008, 07:06:17 pm
You need to know someone with a bentley...
(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9943/rabrelay1do5.th.jpg) (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rabrelay1do5.jpg)(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2391/rabrelay2uc4.th.jpg) (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rabrelay2uc4.jpg)
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Baselyne on January 21, 2008, 04:45:18 am
I need to find one online thats not an astronomical price,...and not looking for it the day I was suppose to drive someone somewhere and In the morning *** wasnt working...Ive stated before that i have like 4 of those books here...none of which have the car im trying to wire in..

Does anyone have a use for one or more of these? I'll trade you for a 1980 diesel bentley (http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/basslyne/bentlies.jpg)

I know I need a bentley but sometimes things happen! Man sorry for asking!

Ive seen vw dealers selling those damn manuels for like 80-$100! the guy was being such a prick too...damn! All I asked for was a few wire locations to the car you love....love to hate!

Not to mention that none of that above wiper intermit stuff is in any of the bentlies i have here and it was first...my wipers that were not working!
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Jetta Fan on January 21, 2008, 04:54:54 am
I had a listing for the fuses, but it's not in my old book (covering the mkI) and can't find it in my "files".

But I know I have it...I'll keep searching.
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on January 21, 2008, 07:54:11 am
Quote from: "Baselyne"
I need to find one online thats not an astronomical price,...and not looking for it the day I was suppose to drive someone somewhere and In the morning *** wasnt working...Ive stated before that i have like 4 of those books here...none of which have the car im trying to wire in..

Does anyone have a use for one or more of these? I'll trade you for a 1980 diesel bentley (http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/basslyne/bentlies.jpg)

I know I need a bentley but sometimes things happen! Man sorry for asking!

Ive seen vw dealers selling those damn manuels for like 80-$100! the guy was being such a prick too...damn! All I asked for was a few wire locations to the car you love....love to hate!

Not to mention that none of that above wiper intermit stuff is in any of the bentlies i have here and it was first...my wipers that were not working!


Nice collection of books I can't believe that what you want isn't there :shock: However my Haynes says that that mk1 fusebox style went up to 1983. Wiring changed 08/87 to 08/79 then 08/79 to 08/80 then 08/80 to 08/82....So
as Mr Daltry would say " Whooo Are  Yooou?? [ooh ooh] :mrgreen:
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Baselyne on January 21, 2008, 09:27:39 am
Those books are gas books... I dont even understand what you wrote there... maybe its me... man i dont know anymore

but i do like this in your sig Mark-The-Miser-UK

"There's nothing like driving past a bonfire and then realising; its my car on fire!"

an if I dont wire with the right diagram then me an you are going to be sitting next enjoying that bonfire

i got marshmellows you bring the bentley
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: demolition dave on January 21, 2008, 10:32:29 am
I hope you don't think I was giving you a hard time about not having the book you need...I bought most through chapters in the past, but now the older stuff is getting harder to find, and I got lucky and picked up the same book you need last week through vortex...   just have to poke around and keep looking...
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on January 21, 2008, 10:58:51 am
Quote from: "Baselyne"
Those books are gas books... I dont even understand what you wrote there... maybe its me... man i dont know anymore

but i do like this in your sig Mark-The-Miser-UK

"There's nothing like driving past a bonfire and then realising; its my car on fire!"

an if I dont wire with the right diagram then me an you are going to be sitting next enjoying that bonfire

i got marshmellows you bring the bentley


 Sorry the song title was from the group the 'Who'. Also there was a mistake with the first part of the diagram no's   "However my Haynes says that that mk1 fusebox style went up to 1983. Wiring changed
08/ 78  to 08/79 then
 08/79 to 08/80 then
 08/80 to 08/82....So  
These are August to August dates.
OK just been prompted by another poster that your issue is with the manuals being gasser only!

Is your car late 1980 or early? If I have time I'll photo the pages you need for the diesel circuits...and pm you
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: lord_verminaard on January 22, 2008, 08:01:28 am
Sorry- I know I said I would find it, but I have not yet- I just moved recently and all my crap is all over the place!

Sorry but I'll try and find it tonight.

Brendan
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Baselyne on January 22, 2008, 08:14:38 am
take your time, I bought a haynes manuel

I moved last january and Im still un-packing boxes
Title: im lost
Post by: Baselyne on January 22, 2008, 08:20:10 am
Quote
"However my Haynes says that that mk1 fusebox style went up to 1983. Wiring changed
08/ [/color]78  to 08/79 then
 08/79 to 08/80 then
 08/80 to 08/82....So  
These are August to August dates.


So you saying that there are another style of fuse panel after 1983? dOES IT LOOK LIKE THE ORIGINAL FUSE BOX? (BLACK ONE) (http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/basslyne/fullboard.jpg)
Title: Re: im lost
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on January 22, 2008, 09:55:30 am
Quote from: "Baselyne"
Quote
"However my Haynes says that that mk1 fusebox style went up to 1983. Wiring changed
08/ [/color]78  to 08/79 then
 08/79 to 08/80 then
 08/80 to 08/82....So  
These are August to August dates.


So you saying that there are another style of fuse panel after 1983? dOES IT LOOK LIKE THE ORIGINAL FUSE BOX? (BLACK ONE) (http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/basslyne/fullboard.jpg)


Yes it turned into this ...Oops cover is off but it looks like two rows of yours :mrgreen: Note bottom row is 20+ new transparent plastic fuses
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6220/germanartyyt6.th.jpg) (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=germanartyyt6.jpg)


Too big :oops:
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Baselyne on January 22, 2008, 10:00:08 pm
by new style fuses you mean these? ATO style I think there called!
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/basslyne/fuse.jpg)

That panel your holding there looks like mine with the other side cover off

They are infact different from when on then? my Haynes says something about 81 then im hearing 84 from others....
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on January 23, 2008, 01:16:30 am
According to the circuit diagrams August 1982 was the change here in the UK for the Golf. Just checked the Quantum, the change was also in August 82...
Are you sure your not con'fusing' :mrgreen: circuit mods with the complete changeover?
I use Hayneses :lol: Mine doesnt specify the date in the writeups but you can work it out:

 :idea:  :idea: If you look at the first page of each circuit upgrade along the top of the diagrams are the coded wire terminations into the back of the fuse box. The old fusebox has 'H' terminals and the bigger board has 'P'  Used for ignition switch battery to fusebox powersupply and manifold preheater/glowplug output :idea:  :idea:

So are you saying that that fuse fits in your fuse array in your car?
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Baselyne on January 24, 2008, 05:59:12 am
no, im not saying that... Your posts are kinda funny man!

i was asking you if that's the fuse used on your "so called new style panel that ive never seen in any vw rabbit
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on January 24, 2008, 11:18:10 am
Quote from: "Baselyne"
no, im not saying that... Your posts are kinda funny man!

i was asking you if that's the fuse used on your "so called new style panel that ive never seen in any vw rabbit


Yea they are kinda funny but contain only truths :wink:

That fuse fits the later circuitry. I'm saying the fuse board officially changed in August 1982. Was that the death of the Rabbit and the birth of the Golf? I've noticed that the Quantum in the US retained the early mk2 frontage whilst over here after about 84 the front liights changed shape and the grill became only 4 horizontal bars...

Anyway I have several circuits appropriate to you just tell me when in 80 your car was built..
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Baselyne on January 24, 2008, 11:24:59 am
My car is from the second month of 80(02.80)
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on January 24, 2008, 04:35:04 pm
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/1518/rotationofimgp5734ao3.jpg  pge1
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1074/rotationofimgp5735jo4.jpg pge2
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/358/rotationofimgp5736gl9.jpg pge3
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/563/rotationofimgp5737je7.jpg pge4
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6468/rotationofimgp5738aj3.jpg pge5
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8939/rotationofimgp5739ls1.jpg pge6
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3017/rotationofimgp5740cy2.jpg pge7

[b]Above is Rabbit diesel August 1979 to August 1980[/b]
Title: right early 80 wiring diagrams
Post by: Baselyne on January 24, 2008, 05:00:32 pm
right on mark, thanks for your help there and sorry for the confussion if I have caused you any

I think sometimes being canadian im stuk between the american english and the english english...or... Im not sure how to explain, well how about we start by saying english is complicated sometimes because there are so many words to describe what your trying to say! My mothers english and my fathers from amercas an 9 times outa ten there slang mean one thing then 10 others....

all of which are non direct hehhhe
thanks for the diagrams that are bang on the money, where the 80 diagram I had in my bentley were not accurate
cheers,
Title: Re: right early 80 wiring diagrams
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on January 24, 2008, 07:01:39 pm
Quote from: "Baselyne"
right on mark, thanks for your help there and sorry for the confussion if I have caused you any

I think sometimes being canadian im stuk between the american english and the english english...or... Im not sure how to explain, well how about we start by saying english is complicated sometimes because there are so many words to describe what your trying to say! My mothers english and my fathers from amercas an 9 times outa ten there slang mean one thing then 10 others....

all of which are non direct hehhhe
thanks for the diagrams that are bang on the money, where the 80 diagram I had in my bentley were not accurate
cheers,


No need to appologise I do like to pro-volke people sometimes. I'm just trying to brighten up the diesel world :lol:
Some of the diagrams are a little fuzzy so I may do them again. I was only hand holding the camera. Where I believe the Bentley is better is by naming the components in situ whilst K28 or M7 doesnt stick in the memory till the next time you look.
 :idea: If you have a mouse with a scroll button[wheel] then pressing 'control' whilst rotating the wheel will enlarge the diagrams :idea:
Title: List of Fuses and coresponding number
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on January 26, 2008, 03:29:20 pm
Re the mysterious relay locations most on the board tally with those pics you sent except as you say the relief relay. The off board relays my be clipped in any order on the top according to car specification.I suspect it is one of the 'lose' clipped on relays. Standard to my book is intermittant wiper relay where Bentley puts X relay. However they share several common terminals and its just a wire or two swapped. Look for black with yellow stripe wires going into back of relay larger of the two is going to the wiper and smaller if it is there is going to the relief relay [I reserve the right to alter this view  :lol: ]