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For Sale/Looking For => Parts for Sale/Wanted => Topic started by: blkboostedtruck on January 03, 2008, 04:55:13 pm
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ok guys shims can be bought in quanities! Thanks to "saurkraut" he found a reputal source for them! the catch is the more we buy the cheaper they are a piece! so saurkraut is going to post the different price ranges after this entry!
the 40 piece of each size looks to be the best bargan? or there is the corporate discount range? saurkraut will handel the ordering and i will handel the distrabution of everyones orders! i think some will come mixed up and will need to be measured and sorted? so lets see if this works well and i think we an get other products also? but first the shims! to get at the 40pc.with more people we can even split it to smaller to a 5count per person witch will be around 70bucks per person for 120 shims! we will let this add run for a while? send me a P.M. of your address and phonee# so i have shipping info. on who is ordering! Thanks and i'll will return mine!
post your intrest!
and we are start taking orders!
thanks Duane
list= for 10 count
blkboostedtruck
saurkraut
turbinpowered 1/2 order
the caveman 1/2 order
Vincent Walden 1/2 order
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So here is the basic numbers, we just need to get a head count of who wants how many, and I'll go back to them and get the final price, figure out the shipping, and get er done. I'm not planning on making any profit, I just want to cover our costs:
The shim set is as follows:
starts at 0.80mm and goes up to 1.95mm (24 sizes) in increments of 0.05mm IE: 0.80, 0.85, 0.90. For adjusting less than 0.05mm, it is permitted to lap the shim to size. By doing this extra step you can achieve better than new injector set balancing!
To answer your question of course the bulk price gets better the more your group buys. Normal price for a set of four each size (96 piece set, guarantees enough for 2 cars) is $78.72 ($0.82 ea.)
10 each size (240 piece set) is $165.60 ($0.69 ea.)
The best discount comes out to 40 pieces of each size (960 pieces total for $0.59 each.) Total cost = $556.40 plus insured shipping inside the USA.
For orders more than that, busy diesel shops, more than 2000-2500 pieces per month begins a corporate account.
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If we do the ordering on this next month or late this month, once I've gotten a steady income coming in again (got to get back in rhythm at work), I'd be down for a 10/each set.
Otherwise, I'll just chip in for a 4/each set.
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I just wanted to add that Duane (blkboostedtruck) is a stand up guy and won't run to Mexico with your money :lol:
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We get one more for a 10/each set and we can get one of those cheaper options. :D
I like where this is going!
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I just wanted to add that Duane (blkboostedtruck) is a stand up guy and won't run to Mexico with your money :lol:
Who says!?
He seems kinda shady to me :lol:
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As per my PM, I can use a 4-per set....
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I just wanted to add that Duane (blkboostedtruck) is a stand up guy and won't run to Mexico with your money :lol:
Who says!?
He seems kinda shady to me :lol:
ahh but mexico is warm this time of year! i wonder if i can use the shims as pesos? i can't spend paypal down there? :roll:
Duane
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Get up there
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Are the shims for the 1.9 AAZ nozzles the same as the 1.6? If they are, let me know as I'll be down for the 4 each set
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Are the shims for the 1.9 AAZ nozzles the same as the 1.6? If they are, let me know as I'll be down for the 4 each set
starrd im assumin they are? but i don't have a AAZ yet! someone may chime in? does somebody have a injector apart that can post O.D. and I.D. of a AAZ injector shim?
actually starrd you would get a 5count of 24 pieces=120 shims for around 70bucks + ship thats more than enough shims for several cars? I'll have the exact amount when we place the order!
in the mean time P.M. me your address and phone # so i have that info on hand! and i will send you back mine for sake! and i will also add you name to the list above and the size of order! watch the first post for changes and updates!
thanks Duane
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Are the shims for the 1.9 AAZ nozzles the same as the 1.6? If they are, let me know as I'll be down for the 4 each set
Nope... AAZ injectors have two springs and two shims... one smaller and one bigger than the MF-type.
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So these are for the 1.6. Can we see if the same deal can be had for the 1.9's?
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Are the shims for the 1.9 AAZ nozzles the same as the 1.6? If they are, let me know as I'll be down for the 4 each set
Nope... AAZ injectors have two springs and two shims... one smaller and one bigger than the MF-type.
what are the O.D. and I.D. of the two different shims? i know that some GM shims are the same size as VW! i got some in on my injector buying venture and even some of the vw injectors came with different I.D. but the same O.D. shims the I.D. is not critical as long as thier was a hole there! but the O.D. could not be bigger than 11.5mm! otherwise it would not fit into the body
thanks Duane
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Bump
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how much for a set of shims for eight injectors? 1.6L single spring
i dont have a pop tester yet, however, so i am only "tire kicking" untill i could find one to use / borrow in my area.
i would be re-building and installing new nozles- lapping the mating surfaces, then matchium up the injectors to within 5 bar / 75 psi.
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how much for a set of shims for eight injectors? 1.6L single spring
i dont have a pop tester yet, however, so i am only "tire kicking" untill i could find one to use / borrow in my area.
i would be re-building and installing new nozles- lapping the mating surfaces, then matchium up the injectors to within 5 bar / 75 psi.
the smallest amount of shims that you can get in on this deal is a 5count of 24 different shims is about 70bucks + shipping! so for 8 injectors you will have alot left over?
thanks Duane
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I'd like to have a date for cut off so we can get ordering on the way!
does anyone have a problem with FEBURARY 1st. to have the money in to saurkraut?
let us know?
thanks Duane
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ok guys shims can be bought in quanities! Thanks to "saurkraut" he found a reputal source for them! the catch is the more we buy the cheaper they are a piece! so saurkraut is going to post the different price ranges after this entry!
the 40 piece of each size looks to be the best bargan? or there is the corporate discount range? saurkraut will handel the ordering and i will handel the distrabution of everyones orders! i think some will come mixed up and will need to be measured and sorted? so lets see if this works well and i think we an get other products also? but first the shims! to get at the 40pc.with more people we can even split it to smaller to a 5count per person witch will be around 70bucks per person for 120 shims! we will let this add run for a while? send me a P.M. of your address and phonee# so i have shipping info. on who is ordering! Thanks and i'll will return mine!
DEAD LINE DATE
LIKE TO HAVE MONEY IN BY FEB. 1st "08 CONTACT SAURKRAUT FOR PAYPAL ARRANGMENTS! and i will mark your name on my list paid!
post your intrest!
and we are start taking orders!
thanks Duane
list= for 10 count
blkboostedtruck
saurkraut
turbinpowered 1/2 order
the caveman 1/2 order
Vincent Walden 1/2 order
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BTW, there was some earlier discussion about the shims in standard 1.5/1.6 injectors vs. the shims in an AAZ injector.
Finally took some pictures... the AAZ injector is at the top:
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/vwaldon/MF_vs_AAZ_injectors_small.jpg)
As you can see... the dual-spring shims are quite different in size.... sigh.
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Vince,
what is the O.D. of the small shim?
what is the I.D. of the big shim?
it's hard to tell in the pic.!
reason is the shims i got from my injector buying venture had alot of different I.D. and the center hole is not critical as long as there is enough for the spring to rest on! i got alot of shims with different center holes!
but does the shims on the aaz one fits over the other inside the housing sits the same place as the single spring injector? will the single spring shim fit inside the aaz larger shim?
thanks Duane
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I didn't mike em, and they are back in the engine (hoping to finally turn the key tomorrow!) but they are exactly the right side to go into specific drillings in the housing... in other words, they are an exact fit, so the single spring shim will not work, nor would either of the other two work in a single spring housing.
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The smaller AAZ shim looks similar th the small TDI shim to me, and the 1.6 shim looks similar to the larger TDI shim.
(http://www.66rover.com/temp/TDIinjector.JPG)
TDI injector inner shim diameter appx 1.15mm, small outer 2.8mm, large outer 4mm.
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I didn't mike em, and they are back in the engine (hoping to finally turn the key tomorrow!) but they are exactly the right side to go into specific drillings in the housing... in other words, they are an exact fit, so the single spring shim will not work, nor would either of the other two work in a single spring housing.
that does make sence that they would have a spot machined to keep the centered in the housing well thanks that clears that up for me!
thanks Duane
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Do either of the TD injectors have the pin like the TDI one? If not then I don't see where the inner diameter would matter at all, and the outer diameter shouldn't be as critical as the shim can't keep the spring centered.
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Do either of the TD injectors have the pin like the TDI one? If not then I don't see where the inner diameter would matter at all, and the outer diameter shouldn't be as critical as the shim can't keep the spring centered.
the single spring shim i have some in my collection now and the O.D. is 11.44 to 11.42mm and the center hole I.D. is from 3.02mm to 5.05mm depending on who made the shim i guess as long as there is a hole in the center it will work! fuel goes through the center hole. now remember i refering to the old style injectors! i don't have any other's to compare thats why i ask?
thanks Duane
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Oops, looks like I did my measurements in inches but put mm. The shim hole is about 2.1 mm, small shim outer is about 7.2mm, large outer is 10.15mm
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I don't think the size of the hole probably matters much (as long as there is one to let diesel back thru the return line) but the outer diameter is pretty critical for all three shims (two in the AAZ and one in the "normal") since in all 3 cases the shim fits is a pocket machined into the top injector half.
Does anyone know for sure that rounding up a standard set of TD hardlines is all that's needed to convert an AAZ engine back to "normal" injectors ??
Oh and more to the subject at hand... is there a list of of how much money (including shipping) we should each be contributing to this shim buy ??! Don't want anyone to be out of pocket.....
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Vince,
as soon as the company gets back with saurkraut! should hear in a day or 2? were confirming the 400 count to get the better price! he will post his paypal address and the correct amount that needs to be sent to him from everyone and i will remind everyone my self that the info is posted!
but don't forget everyone!! FEB. 1st. have your payment to saurkraut so we can order that week!
info will be posted shortly!
thanks Duane
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Group buy pricing:
Shims
Price
½ Set
$80.77
.turbine powered, caveman, and Vince
Full Set +
..$200.37
.blkboostedtruck, saurkraut
Price includes shipping, handling, repackaging, and final shipping.
I'll be buying the 400 piece quantity, drop shipping them to blkboostedtruck. He'll repackage, and ship to all in the group.
We kind of fell short on the quantities, so blkboostedtruck and I will split the cost of the excess. If anyone else wants a half set, speak now.
Paypal address: [email protected]
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Hey, no reason for you and Duane to come up short... go ahead, redo the math ?
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Hey, no reason for you and Duane to come up short... go ahead, redo the math ?
no worrys Vince! fatmobile wants a 1/2 order!
so here's where we stand with all who is ordering!
don't forget to have your payments in to saurkraut by feb. 1st.
thanks Duane
blkboostedtruck= $161.55 full order 240pc.
saurkraut= $161.55 full order 240pc.
turbinpowered= $80.77 1/2 order 120pc.
the caveman= $80.77 1/2 order 120pc.
vincent walden= $80.77 1/2 order 120pc.
fatmobile= $80.77 1/2 order 120pc
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I just put new inserts in some injectors and it cost me almost $50 to get them set.
These shims and the bottlejack pop tester should pay for themselves pretty quickly.
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kinda on the subject. does anybody know where i can buy a tester. i though i had ordered one from some supplier on ebay but i never got an answer from them. i can use the one at the dealer i used to work at but, it's across town and...
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thats how i got involved wih this! local fuel systems shop quoted me 80bucks to rebuild mine and thats with me supplying the nozzels too!
i bought a used poptester from Tintin and just needed shims now and soon i should be abel to service my own fleet! :wink:
and in the long run i'll save money and learn something from it!
thanks Duane
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kinda on the subject. does anybody know where i can buy a tester. i though i had ordered one from some supplier on ebay but i never got an answer from them. i can use the one at the dealer i used to work at but, it's across town and...
there was a site that i found them but i don't remember where i stumbled onto them? it was just by chance that i found the poptesters for sale?
Fatmobile= has paid his moneyorder of $80.77 thanks Fatmobile!
Feb. 1st is this friday! if anyone has a problem let us know? right now we are counting on everyone that has signed up to buy them!
thanks Duane
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Come on folks, show him the money.
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Actually, show ME the money.
The master (?) plan is for me to recieve the funds, Purchase the whole lot of shims, Drop ship them to Mr. blkboostedtruck, and send him the postage for shipping to all concerned.
Mr. blkboostedtruck gets to count a bazillion shims, sort and ship.
My Paypal address is [email protected]
If all goes well Mr. blkboostedtruck and I break even, and all you guys get your shims.
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hey saurkraut did you get my money/ i paypaled last night
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Actually, show ME the money.
Money done been sent.
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Paid
Fatmobile
Caveman
Vincent
Thanks guys!
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Sorry about the late pay, guys, I had a frantic as disastrous diarrhea payday yesterday and didn't get to the bank like I had planned. Thus, I paid up when I finally go home, which was all of ten minutes ago.
Some days I wonder why I put up with my job...
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Paid
Fatmobile
Caveman
Vincent
Turbinepowered
Thanks guys!
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Good news! the supplyer called me today and told me that i should have the shims delivered at my house by the end of the week!
and he says he can get nozzels at a group deal! he's sending me a list of items he can get his hands on!
thanks Duane
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maybe he'll have some pop testers for sale. i'm still trying to find one.
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Good news! the supplyer called me today and told me that i should have the shims delivered at my house by the end of the week!
and he says he can get nozzels at a group deal! he's sending me a list of items he can get his hands on!
thanks Duane
Yup, payment has been sent.
Thanks for everyones cooperation!
For future reference, the limit for payments recieved to a standard wog paypal account is 5 per annaversary month. They actaully keep track of your start date and count out the payments recieved. So i'm out of commission until the 14th of this month.
The other option is a commercial account, but you pay a couple percent per transaction as the reciever of funds.
We sneeked under the wire on this one.
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maybe he'll have some pop testers for sale. i'm still trying to find one.
maybe? i have his # on my cell phone! i forgot his name? but ican P.M. the # to ya? he would might be abel to help you out ?
let me know?
thanks Duane
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His name is Sean Watts
Email: [email protected]
Really great customer service! Helped me unscrew a Paypal issue and got the job done.
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maybe he'll have some pop testers for sale. i'm still trying to find one.
yes he has a poptester for you caveman i talked to him again today when he called to confirm my zip code! so either E-mail him or i can P.M. you his phone # to you? let me know? he said he bought it for him self but has not used it! no fuel has been in it at all! he can get anotherone for him self and more if anyone one else wants one? i think he said it was over 400bucks u.s.d.?
thanks Duane
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Did he want $400 for it? honestly for that price i will keep on looking. I'm pretty sure i can find one for less. i may have to eat my words after searching and not finding one but ....
thanks anyways
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GOOD NEWS SHIMS ARE HERE!
I will get them bagged up and sent out to everyone this week!
I'm gonna send everyone 24 small bags and i will write what size they are on each bag! thanks guys!
Duane
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GOOD NEWS SHIMS ARE HERE!
I will get them bagged up and sent out to everyone this week!
I'm gonna send everyone 24 small bags and i will write what size they are on each bag! thanks guys!
Duane
No, thank you, Duane !!
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yes thanks!
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good news again shims are shipped !!
everyone in the states i will P.M. you a tracking #!
Vince and caveman unfortunatley shipping to canada from the U.S. post office does not have that service but shipping from canada to here in the states one can get that service! wierd?
but everyone let me know when your package arrives?
thanks Duane
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ok saurkraut got his shims!
anyone else get thiers yet?
Duane
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I picked mine up at the post office today.
Thanks
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get em....!!
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And I got mine today, after being informed that "this envelope arrived for you last Friday" but I didn't get it in my hands until Tuesday. Arghle.
So we are good to go!
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Mine arrived today... wow...lots of little baggies. Perhaps that's why they took so long at the border. :wink:
Lots of work went into this group buy... thanks all !!
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Did he want $400 for it? honestly for that price i will keep on looking. I'm pretty sure i can find one for less. i may have to eat my words after searching and not finding one but ....
thanks anyways
Didn't you see Libbybapa's thread on making one from a hydraulic jack? I have started on one, but then got busy with other things in the meantime.
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Hi guys since this happened while the fine details were being done to the buyer/seller feed back thread oneof the reciepients of the shims should request sarrkraut and I blkboostedtruck be added to the feed back thread?
we can't do it our selves! and in order for that feedback to be sucessfull we all have to use it! thats what it's there for!
thanks Duane
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Are there any of these left guys?
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Feedback sent... it *might* even be positive !! :wink:
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Are there any of these left guys?
Mike they were all devided and most got 5shims of 24different sizes!
I do have the source info if you would like to do another group buy or buy the whole set for your self? well let me know and i can P.M. you the info
thanks Duane