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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: dillenger1 on December 08, 2007, 11:15:57 am

Title: The Peugeot Pump
Post by: dillenger1 on December 08, 2007, 11:15:57 am

Ive got a 86 1.6 ltr na engine that im converting to td.If I get a pump from a td  how specific do i need to get with the injectors?Ive heard you want the injectors that go with the pump.Ive got a pump coming from a Peugeot 505 2.3ltr.I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on injectors.Im going to retain the na cylinderhead,but im going with a td block so far. thanks
 ben

Title: The Peugeot Pump
Post by: dillenger1 on December 09, 2007, 12:26:25 pm

anyone? Would i want turbo injectors?
ben

Title: The Peugeot Pump
Post by: jtanguay on December 09, 2007, 09:44:03 pm

Quote from: "dillenger1"

anyone? Would i want turbo injectors?
ben

you don't really need them to operate, but vw upped the breaking pressure from 130 bar to 155 bar to "ensure safe fuel atomization"

Title: The Peugeot Pump
Post by: 4BTA4ME on December 10, 2007, 03:23:22 am

This is Dillenger1's pump number VE-4/10F2075R67. He's getting this for Christmas. Nothing says Merry Christmas like a Bosch VE pump. :lol:
   It was in an XD2S 2.3L turbo diesel that was in a 1978-1986 Peugot 505. It made 80 H.P./ 59kw. It had a Garret TA0302 on the production engine.

Title: The Peugeot Pump
Post by: dillenger1 on December 10, 2007, 02:39:05 pm

Your right!U couldnt of said it better.Merry Christmas to me!Its what i wouldve got myself if i had the $$$So the na nozzles will actually keep it cooler,correct?Will using na nozzles effect my fueling?I mean do they have a lower ceiling power wise?
ben

Title: The Peugeot Pump
Post by: dillenger1 on December 11, 2007, 04:17:54 pm

what engine was that?When you say offset,you mean the position of the gear?I havent really looked into it,but would it be possible to swap the shaft and gear assembly from another pump,meant for the engine?
ben

Title: The Peugeot Pump
Post by: 4BTA4ME on December 12, 2007, 03:33:50 am

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z44/ImSoAmish/505pump.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z44/ImSoAmish/505pump1.jpg

Pump photos. Hey.. He wasn't supposed to see these before Christmas morning.
If housing length is an issue then we just transfer the LDA and maybe the fueling plunger if it's bigger than the stock one.

Title: The Peugeot Pump
Post by: 4BTA4ME on December 12, 2007, 06:53:29 am

Maybe it's easy to make the bracket into a two hole bracket.
Or we can possibly swap stuff over to the VW housing. Any suggestions on what should be moved over to the 1.6L pump besides the LDA?

Title: The Peugeot Pump
Post by: 4BTA4ME on December 12, 2007, 07:15:39 am

Use the VW check valves?

Title: The Peugeot Pump
Post by: BejamminR on December 12, 2007, 07:46:44 am

Quote from: "jtanguay"

Quote from: "dillenger1"

anyone? Would i want turbo injectors?
ben

you don't really need them to operate, but vw upped the breaking pressure from 130 bar to 155 bar to "ensure safe fuel atomization"

As far as this goes, it is mandatory to turn up the pressures / switch to the turbo injectors for PROPER operation. That's not to "ensure safe fuel atomization" at all, it is to prevent SECONDARY injection. By cranking up the pressure, these injectors open when they're supposed to and close when they're supposed to, preventing unintended injection and making your machine actually work like it's supposed to.

It will run with NA injectors, but not ideally at all. (That info is from Giles more than me.  :wink: )

Title: The Peugeot Pump
Post by: dillenger1 on December 12, 2007, 09:28:00 am

thank you for the injector information.Sorry im not to good at the quote feature LIBBYBABBA you said the only problem is the bracket,same casting?

Title: The Peugeot Pump
Post by: shegel on December 12, 2007, 10:56:30 pm

if i were to get a diesel pump from a peugeot then could i run the peugeot injectors? where would i get these things