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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: Black Smokin' Diesel on December 04, 2007, 06:28:43 pm

Title: Interesting pics
Post by: Black Smokin' Diesel on December 04, 2007, 06:28:43 pm
This is an VW 1.8l 8v head from a MK2. The 1.6 head is probably very similar internally (as far as ports go). I knew VW heads didn't flow very well but wow...

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3565824

Quote from: "secondgen"
Bone stock 1990 8V hydro head....

...the rest is pretty self explanatory...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass027.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass033.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass039.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass046.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass049.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass053.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass054.jpg)

Fun stuff. :laugh:


Quote from: "secondgen"
Few more:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass066.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass068.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass070.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass071.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass072.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/second91gen/Engine%20Stuff/zoomass073.jpg)

Stock cam at highest lift, in the pics that have the valve open. No it's not the stock spring, it's just some light-duty one i had lying around the shop.
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Title: Interesting pics
Post by: burn_your_money on December 04, 2007, 06:41:14 pm
I've always wanted to do that to one of my spare diesel heas
Title: Interesting pics
Post by: Op-Ivy on December 04, 2007, 09:57:25 pm
Beautiful!
Title: Interesting pics
Post by: shegel on December 04, 2007, 10:34:18 pm
wow.. this helps me a lot with my understanding of heads and how they go together...keep in mind that 1 know about diesels but am just starting to work on them myself
Title: Interesting pics
Post by: jtanguay on December 04, 2007, 11:28:23 pm
it looks like if some of the blue area was removed, the structural integrity of the head would be drastically reduced...  someone should make a full blown custom head built from the ground up :)
Title: Interesting pics
Post by: QuickTD on December 05, 2007, 06:19:06 am
I actually think the 1.9 diesel head is a bit better in terms of port design than the gasser. I have some cutaway pics, credit to Dr Diesel for the sawing.

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg15/QuickTD/DSCF0363.jpg)
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg15/QuickTD/DSCF0362.jpg)
Title: Interesting pics
Post by: jtanguay on December 05, 2007, 07:47:45 am
maybe the better airflow is what gives the 1.9 more low end torque?  would be interesting if the 1.9 head could be modified enough to work properly on a 1.6 without too much difficulty.  i wonder if it would make the 1.6 more of a torque monster?
Title: Interesting pics
Post by: burn_your_money on December 05, 2007, 08:48:46 am
longer stroke is a huge contributer
Title: Interesting pics
Post by: Baxter on December 05, 2007, 03:23:07 pm
Certainly food for thought with respect to tidying the ports up with a die grinder!
Cheers for re-posting.
 8)
Title: Interesting pics
Post by: subsonic on December 05, 2007, 04:15:56 pm
Quote from: "jtanguay"
maybe the better airflow is what gives the 1.9 more low end torque?  would be interesting if the 1.9 head could be modified enough to work properly on a 1.6 without too much difficulty.  i wonder if it would make the 1.6 more of a torque monster?


It's a straight bolt on for the 1.6 hydro.  That's the Franken.  If you have Good compression and plugs, and the top end is in good shape it should be no problem starting for daily driving.
Title: Interesting pics
Post by: Black Smokin' Diesel on December 07, 2007, 06:17:40 pm
Quote from: "QuickTD"
I actually think the 1.9 diesel head is a bit better in terms of port design than the gasser. I have some cutaway pics, credit to Dr Diesel for the sawing.

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg15/QuickTD/DSCF0363.jpg)
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg15/QuickTD/DSCF0362.jpg)


Those ports do look a lot better flowing than the 8v ones. There's a lot less room for improvement. Anyone have 1.6 cut outs? Hmmm thinking about it, I've got two cracked 1.6 heads...
Title: Interesting pics
Post by: stewardc on December 08, 2007, 05:01:43 am
I think the 1.9 AAZ head is slightly better, but mine did get a lot of porting work.