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General Information => General => Topic started by: Quantum TD on November 06, 2007, 12:34:58 am
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I've never posted an item for sale on the TDiClub forum, but I often read the Car Classifieds. It's like watching an old-fashioned stoning or lions on the African plains. You can't post a single thing without 20 veteran and new members pouncing on your ad, belittling your integrity, and price bashing your merchandise. It's truly pathetic.
I've often considered posting the occasional diesel that I resurrect on that forum, but NEVER will. I recommend others follow suit and avoid the den of hyenas.
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amen. most of the people there would rather just cut people up than offer helpful advice.
i find tdiclub very bulky with some posts having over 10 pages of absolute crap. sifting through that garbage is painstaking and often i'll just close the window and watch some tv.
this site rules! although there seems to be quite a few newbies posting in the wrong sections, but hey nobody's perfect! :lol:
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I don't post there very often anymore. It was great when I joined in 2000 but, it's changed allot over the years as VW diesels have gotten more popular and expensive.
Most of they time it seems they are obsessive compulsive snooty purist that can't think outside the box. Lately seems most would never stoop so low and to work on their own vehicle (Note: Up to 1992 VW made cars, from 1993 on they are Vehicles :wink: )
Back around 04 when I posted about the home made single tank WVO setup I did in my 03 TDI, you have have thought I posted pictures of myself biting the heads off of kittens and little baby chicks. Most of the posts read like I was going to be sent to TDI Hell by the TDI Gods. The best part were the responses to the effect of "OMG!! Your dealer is so going to kill you when you bring your car in... Your warranty is toast!!!"
When I posted that I rode my original timing belt to 116K it was utter sacrilege.
I was already out of warranty and I avoided the stealership like the plauge anyway.
Over the last couple years the posts seem to be from people with more money than sense and can only parrot back the BS that the service writers at the stealership feed them. Which is easy to understand, let's face it the moment someone buys a PD, the dealer has them by the jugular, they are owned.
Of course, it's all very similar to how things are on the tex, it's about owners and what they own, seems like the MkI, and MkII forums are very different than the MkIII, MkIV, MkV forums, just as the owners of the cars are different, different mentalities and attitudes. It's the demographics I guess.
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so its a good tihng i never joined? i like it here anyways, this is the single forum i am on that is actually intelligent people, topics, posts, and repectable answers and questions. And i sure learn a lot more from this forum then i do anywhere else.
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I love this place!
Great information provided by some fine, upstanding, fantastic folks that want to share their knowledge and love of VW diesels with others that love their VW diesels.
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I'll have to agree will the topic.
I joined there before here I think but it didnt take long for me to realize that place was like hell.
Good info is little and FAR between there.
WE ROCK @ VWDIESLE.COM!!!
dan
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Yeah. It seems like there is little in the way of good information on Poortex, and the TDIclub are a bunch of self-righteous twats who have their noses way too far up the asses of a handful of members (Harviex for example). If anyone tries to sell anything on there for at or above Blue-Book, they pounce all over you and start bludgeoning your post claiming you're a scam artist or have your head up your arse.
I guess they are really cheap bastards and/or they do not understand how free market economics work. They take KBB with it's standard depreciation formula as bible, but ignore the high market demand that they themselves create. Any car that sells on ebay or at a dealer for more than Blue Book means someone got suckered. If that's the case, then about 98% of all TDI owners got suckered. In reality, most did. Give me a 1.6 or a 1.9 TD anyday over the BS involved in owning a TDI.
I know where to get good solid information without the condescending attitude of the Star-Bellied-Sneetches on TDIclub. I'll keep it here.
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They are so anti IDI, so I never cared for that site anyway.
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I kinda like hanging out in the swap forum, with the rest of the guys who don't give two shakes about the warranty. Who's going to warrant a TDI in a Mk2? :D
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I am so happy to see this post. A month or two ago I tried to input some reason into a long winded post on TDI club and quickly realized what several of you here have mentioned; there is a hardcore crowd there whose sole motivation is to argue every statement with personal degradation. It's like a geeky diesel soap opera over there.
I have found the site useful for tracking down info on common TDI specific failures but that is about it. The primary topics over there seem to be tuning chips, arguments on what lube oil and how often to change it and general "I'm smarter than you" threads.
Being in a diesel related business, I run into a lot of folks who spend quite a bit of time on TDI club and I am very selective about who I refer to this site.
My thanks go out to Marc and the rest of you who have been keeping this site alive the last 5 years or so.
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Amen brother!
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tdiclub was a great intro for me to diesels. Unfortunately their depth of topics is pretty narrow. Best thing I ever got from there is how to replace my clutch/flywheel and contact info for a chip tuner.
I guess I went backward from there because it was after I got my pd-tdi that I rebuilt my first ever engine (son's 1.6TD) and now I intend to let my wife have the 2006 and I want to rebuild another 1.6TD for myself! It's very addictive!
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tdiclub was a great intro for me to diesels. Unfortunately their depth of topics is pretty narrow. Best thing I ever got from there is how to replace my clutch/flywheel and contact info for a chip tuner.
I guess I went backward from there because it was after I got my pd-tdi that I rebuilt my first ever engine (son's 1.6TD) and now I intend to let my wife have the 2006 and I want to rebuild another 1.6TD for myself! It's very addictive!
You need a good serious Mk 1, my man. It's too bad that the TDI Club has so narrow a focus. They only seem to be interested in chiptuning and wheels.
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It IS "TDI" club, hence the whole ecu chipping and such.
In the past year I would agree though, tdiclub has lost much content and has turned more into a "club" for old men to drag out long pissing contests.
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I went to one of thier monthly GTG hear and met the few that showed up! and there was only one person that was abel to do thier own wrenching! and that was not including me! the rest of them all talk about who they have performing work on thier cars! my girl is a die-hard volkswagen lover! and owns a 04 TDI jetta and I consider her a novice! because she don't do the work! now i do all the work on my caddys, and rabbits and i consider my self an enthusioust because i get personal with all that is associated with my vehicles! now would that be the difference between us and them? we have hands on experience and they gotta make something out of nothing they do on thier own cars? does that make any sence to anyone?
thanks Duane
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tdiclub has turned more into a "club" for old men to drag out long pissing contests.
Exactly. It's a pissing contest to see who's a cheaper bastard when it comes to buying a car, but no-one ever talks about how much they had to pay a real mechanic to fix all the crap that was wrong with their heaps.
None of them ever thinks: "Gee, if I pay more for a car with a history of repair, I won't have to repair stuff later." No, their motto is: "Since I don't know a damned thing about fixing these cars, I'd better try to nit-pick the price of every car out there to save a buck."
The other TDI member is the guy willing to spend ridiculous amounts of money on a newer one with limited options.
I may be getting petty, but I wouldn't be so peeved if they weren't so condescending toward others: especially when they themselves don't know anything about diesels except what their VAG-COMs and other TDI forum members tell them.
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hmmmm chiptuning and wheels... thats not what dieseling is all about... intercooling, turbo's.. injectors... oh yea baby!!!!
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Yes, that does make sense. In all fairness, they are VW lovers, just, for the most part, not true enthusiasts. They love the cars and the engines, but don't wrench much.
If they're not against us, they're with us.
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hmmmm chiptuning and wheels... thats not what dieseling is all about... intercooling, turbo's.. injectors... oh yea baby!!!!
Chip tuning and wheels... it's a Honda forum? :shock:
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Naaahh, if it was Fart Cans, Massive Wings, and CF body parts it would be a Honda forum.
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Naaahh, if it was Fart Cans, Massive Wings, and CF body parts it would be a Honda forum.
lol... some of those wings make me laugh... if only the driver knew just how comical they are.
i mean come on... do you really think your 100 hp (maybe 105 with that k&n filter :roll: :lol:) is capable of putting enough power to the wheels that high speed traction is an issue? lol... most of them probably create more parasitic drag than good.
maybe they can create a wing that allows the car to 'float' while maintaining a small amount of traction to maintain speed. almost like a hydrofoil?
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I'll revive an old post for fun.
I'm going to come to the defense of TDIClub. I've been helped a great deal by a lot of guys over there. A lot of them do their own wrenching and a few of them really know their cars inside & out. There is a ton of good info there and a quite a few helpful people with plenty of knowledge.
However, I have seen it change a lot, especially in the last 2 years. There are quite a few more 'Texers that have made the transition there & brought their attitude with them. There are also a lot more hopeless hippies there that want to convert their diesel to run on grease as cheaply as possible. And yes, there are a couple of people over there that I just don't have much time for.
I like it here. Good attitude shown all around & everyone seems more than willing to help each other out. 8)
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I'll revive an old post for fun.
I'm going to come to the defense of TDIClub. I've been helped a great deal by a lot of guys over there. A lot of them do their own wrenching and a few of them really know their cars inside & out. There is a ton of good info there and a quite a few helpful people with plenty of knowledge.
However, I have seen it change a lot, especially in the last 2 years. There are quite a few more 'Texers that have made the transition there & brought their attitude with them. There are also a lot more hopeless hippies there that want to convert their diesel to run on grease as cheaply as possible. And yes, there are a couple of people over there that I just don't have much time for.
I like it here. Good attitude shown all around & everyone seems more than willing to help each other out. 8)
x2.
Both sites are great, although I am finding myself spending more and more time over here these days :).
Happy holidays everyone!
-BB
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I just registered, but only to PM someone about injectors. Too bad I didn't know I could use 2.5 pistons in my 1.9 before I ordered pistons though. :twisted:
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I'd like to throw my $.02 in!!! I've read from both sites and I do see a pissssssin' match on the other forum.
I've had multiple VW's and have ALWAYS had a problem with the local dealer. I only say this b/c I had an 03 Wolfsburg Jetta and my g/f now has an 06 PD TDI Jetta, fugged on service with both cars. I'll tell you all right now that I keep DETAILED documentation when I service her Jetta. Pictures of the ELF DID 5-40, Mann oil filter, odometer reading so on and so forth. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay over $75 to have the Jetta serviced when I can service it for about $45.
TDICLUB: "Oh my, you serviced your own car, arnt' you worried about the warrantee..."
VWGTD: "Hi, my name is XXX, I need help with this..."
VWGTDREPLY: "Do this, this, & this & you will have it fixed.."
It's two totally different thoughts, some have $$ and some don't. Some of us drive older VW's b/c we LOVE THEM.
Call me a stuck up SOB b/c we wanted a new TDI but again, I'LL BE DAMNED if I take it to SUD's for ANY service work again......Lujack's here we come!
BTW, I see what previous members talked about the pissin matches about oil......GIMMI A FREAKIN BREAK!!! It calls for 505.01, USE IT END OF STORY!
sorry for the rant....
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I've never posted an item for sale on the TDiClub forum, but I often read the Car Classifieds. It's like watching an old-fashioned stoning or lions on the African plains. You can't post a single thing without 20 veteran and new members pouncing on your ad, belittling your integrity, and price bashing your merchandise. It's truly pathetic.
I've often considered posting the occasional diesel that I resurrect on that forum, but NEVER will. I recommend others follow suit and avoid the den of hyenas.
Couldn't agree with you more. :D There is much more to be learned over here, and alot more open minds to facilitate it.
Its seems the universal answer for everything over there lies in a chip............ :)
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couldn't agree more. i will go there from time to time to look for something, but its gotten way out of hand.
hope nothing like that happens here.
apologies if i have ever come across as 'one of those guys' - quicktd, im looking at you...
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apologies if i have ever come across as 'one of those guys' - quicktd, im looking at you...
One of what guys? :D
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they themselves don't know anything about diesels except what their VAG-COMs and other TDI forum members tell them.
Yep, the "peanut gallery" there is obnoxious^100000. I hardly post there anymore. Some of the crap pedaled there by "gurus" which is gobbled up by the idiot masses is absolutely astounding in its absurdity.
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apologies if i have ever come across as 'one of those guys' - quicktd, im looking at you...
One of what guys? :D
well, ungrateful jerks, of course
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hmmmm chiptuning and wheels... thats not what dieseling is all about... intercooling, turbo's.. injectors... oh yea baby!!!!
Seeing that I would be considered one of the enemy here, I'd have to say that I wholeheartedly agree with you here! :)
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Naaahh, if it was Fart Cans, Massive Wings, and CF body parts it would be a Honda forum.
lol... some of those wings make me laugh... if only the driver knew just how comical they are.
i mean come on... do you really think your 100 hp (maybe 105 with that k&n filter :roll: :lol:) is capable of putting enough power to the wheels that high speed traction is an issue? lol... most of them probably create more parasitic drag than good
It's on the wrong end for high speed traction anyway. Who wants to be pushing down on the back end of a front wheel drive car? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't you want your downward push over, oh, the drive wheels? And just enough over the back to keep it "stuck" to the road?
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I think you guys may be a little hard on the guys with the huge wings, fart cans, etc. They do serve one useful purpose - catching the cops' attention so the sleepers can get by with one less ticket. :lol:
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I also hate tdiclub. I know I am often apart of the vendor pissing matches on there, I try to be less apart of that site everyday.
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hmmmm chiptuning and wheels... thats not what dieseling is all about... intercooling, turbo's.. injectors... oh yea baby!!!!
Seeing that I would be considered one of the enemy here, I'd have to say that I wholeheartedly agree with you here! :)
Meister, I've always considered you one of the good guys!
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:( Yes I started out on tdiclub back in 2001 as an avid reader before I had my Diesel. It stinks that its gone to hell and a hand basket. I made an attempt to try and get things to change for the better to organize and got shot down with no responses by the mods. I really do miss the technical forum posts from then! Hopefully I will have better luck here. BTW this is my first post ;) is it ok for me to even post here :)?
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welcome shortysclimbin, yes you can post! and be prepared to learn a lot!
there are some smart brillant members here! I have learned quite a bit! and still learn everyday about something!
thanks Duane
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Well I am here I am in hopes to learn more about the following:
1) VE pumps and how I can build a Electronic one that can rev high and have great timing advancement
2) Porting info
3) General engine building info tips and tricks.
4) Fun, diesel and otherwise.
BTW I dont have the time to post up my current build but if you want to check it out I am hosting it at tdiclub right now. Almost have all the pieces I need to get it done right, but every time I get one step ahead I feel like I have six more things to do...