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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: chemist on October 29, 2007, 06:46:31 am
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HELP!
Started to install a throttle shaft oring to stop a bad leak, removed throttle springs, etc and the 4 bolts holding the cover down and started to lift cover up but it would not come up more than an inch, caught on something internally, but if I try to re-seat the cover it will not go down.
Now I'm without a seal, without a working IJ pump and car.
Can anyone tell me how to get this cover off correctly so I can replace the throttle shaft oring and put the cover back on again correctly?
This is a Bosch VE pump on a 1991 VW Jetta non turbo.
Thanks so much,
Perhaps a phone call would be more efficient? (days 508-854-5286, eve 508-248-7281)
Brad
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More info: Help! "Can not remove injector pump cover"
(http://www.mypicstudio.com/show.php?img=4444_injectorpump.jpg.html)
img=4446_injectorpumpdiagram.jpg.html(http://These images look close to what my IJ pump has on it on the top cover. Does the assembly on top need to come apart before the 4 bolts that hold the pump cover can be removed so the cover will lift off? This appears to be the diagram for what my pump has, in particular the assembly in the top of the image (but is not exact for everything). Does that whole assembly need to be removed so that the pump cover (item 19) can lift off without getting hung up? The seal oring for the throttle shaft I assume is item 11 in this diagram? I assume that the throttle shaft gets pushed through the cover to expose the shaft for o-ring replacement? If the item on top needs to be removed to remove the cover (19) how should it be re-assembled properly? It appears that I can not remove the cover because something is hanging up on that end of the cover, nor can I put the cover back on at this time with the item with the arrow in place.This injector pump is on a 1991 VW jetta w/o turbo.Any help would be appreciated.Brad508-854-5286 days508-0248-7281 eve)
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Coupla thoughts... in approximate order of likelyhood:
- are you pushing out the throttle shaft as you lift the lid ?? The throttle shaft stays attached to the body of the pump during lid removal.. you may need to use a drift to help press it out as you lift the lid... and depending on condition of the throttle bushing and o-ring (already suspect since it leaks!) it may take a little bit of pressure.
- have you backed out the fuel screw (the screw on the driver side that is sealed with a lead or plastic cap) ?? Sometimes that screw hangs up during disassembly (it certainly will try to do so during assembly)... be careful to count the exact number of turns or just ensure you don't move the locknut against the steel/plastic seal.
- does your pump have a linkage on the backside (the side that faces the engine) which bumps up the idle when the cold-start knob is pulled out all the way ?? If so there is an internal spring between that linkage (looks like a teeter-toter that rocks between two adjustment stops) and the throttle arm internally... gotta look up inside and remove one end before pulling the lid completely off.
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Coupla thoughts... in approximate order of likelyhood:
- are you pushing out the throttle shaft as you lift the lid ?? The throttle shaft stays attached to the body of the pump during lid removal.. you may need to use a drift to help press it out as you lift the lid... and depending on condition of the throttle bushing and o-ring (already suspect since it leaks!) it may take a little bit of pressure.
- have you backed out the fuel screw (the screw on the driver side that is sealed with a lead or plastic cap) ?? Sometimes that screw hangs up during disassembly (it certainly will try to do so during assembly)... be careful to count the exact number of turns or just ensure you don't move the locknut against the steel/plastic seal.
- does your pump have a linkage on the backside (the side that faces the engine) which bumps up the idle when the cold-start knob is pulled out all the way ?? If so there is an internal spring between that linkage (looks like a teeter-toter that rocks between two adjustment stops) and the throttle arm internally... gotta look up inside and remove one end before pulling the lid completely off.
Thanks Vince,
I did get it off just fine with your help and back on again, now no leak with throttle shaft, but have a leak at the cold start bolt on engine side just below the parting line with the cover, don't know if I can get to that with the cover off again and without changing the timing.
Also, it now idles very very rough, I had to really increase the idle screw to stop it from shaking like a washing machine! Drove it to work today, better when warmed up but still the rough idle. Could this be a clogged injection port or did the fuel screw mess up?? How would I check the fuel screw to re-ajust? Carefully I assume, but make the adjustment while it is stopped then start and check it out?
Thanks,
Brad