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General Information => General => Topic started by: burn_your_money on October 23, 2007, 07:55:22 am
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It wasn't suppose to be a diesel, but I convinced him it was the way to go.
He started with a motorcycle engine, gave up on that when it came to mounting the tranny, then he wanted a 16v but all those wires... so I traded him one of my spare 1.6NAs. A nice strong engine perfect for taking a beating in the bush. It's currently hooked up to a diesel auto box for simplicity (shifter linkage) but he plans on throwing in a close ratio 5 speed.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/burnyourmoney/PA200032.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/burnyourmoney/PA200033.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/burnyourmoney/PA200034.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/burnyourmoney/PA200035.jpg)
Listen to that baby purr
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/burnyourmoney/th_PA200042.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v603/burnyourmoney/?action=view¤t=PA200042.flv)
Hopefully he will join soon and add more to this thread. Him and 3 friends are building it. You'll notice some not-so-nice welds, that was my brother teaching his friends how to weld.
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(http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif)(http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif)
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...and I'm in!!
as tyler said, we started with a bike. Suzuki temptor gr650.
this is whats left of it now...
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/untitled015.jpg)
anyone looking for a project bike :wink:
we started with seats, figuring they're one of the more important parts, next to the engine and wheels. (actually its all we had to start with)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/unknown015.jpg)
...yup, thats high quality bed frame :lol: heck, i figured it was only a lighweight kart at that point so i wasn't going to complain with free steel.
had i known we'd give up on the bike and switch to a car engine i wouldn't even have considered it.
heres the layout we planned with the 650
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/unknown030.jpg)
i guess it could have worked if we used an auto tranny. the clutch would be putting pressure on the motors output shaft all wrong this way.... easier to just use the engine that bolts up to the tranny :lol:
tyler hooked us up with the engine from this
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/car025.jpg)
and after a few weekeds during the summer this is where its at now
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/kart002.jpg)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/kart001.jpg)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/kart003.jpg)
that civic wishes it was as cool as the kart
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/kart006.jpg)
its all thrown together with bedframe and 1" electrical conduit for now, pending strong steel.
It does roll under its own power, we've had it on a few quick rips down the block. great fun but stopping an auto without breaks isnt.
anyway, i look forward to you comments and suggestions. if you have questions ask away, i'll try to keep this updated as we go along.
maybe get some more vids of the thing in action :)
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Thats awesome! I'm awaiting pictures and videos! :)
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Yeah, videos are a must!
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so no real progress lately, not fun working when its so cold out.
we're going to stick with the auto till we get the rest done and the 5 speed will go in much later as an upgrade. so since were going to run with the auto for now i figure i might as well be nice to it and give it a new screen/filter and some new fluid. i have no idea what type of fluid it takes though. anyone know?
thanks in advance
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010 uses Dexron
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right on, thanks.
Do you check the level the normal way, running in park heated up?
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Depending on how you are going to use it, I'd beef up all the metal I think. It's hard to tell exactly what was used, but it looks a bit thin to me. Roll cage needs cross braces, triangles are strong, squares are very weak. Very cool though.
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I gave him one of my old roll cages from a rabbit that he is going to fabricate in. It's like 1 3/4" steel pipes, probably 3/8" walls on it. Serious business
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as tyler said, that cage is getting cut off and the one he donated will take its place, it'll be nice and sturdy when done. that is if it ever gets done. :lol:
projects always take longer then you first imagine they will eh.
thanks for the tip jimfoo, thats what this thread is all about
so any answer on how to check tranny fluid level?
thanks
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so we had an oil leak from the dipstick i wanted to fix, should be an easy fix i though....yeah right, that sucker was in there good, we got it out most of the way but it was stuck on the last few inches. I really didnt want to have to drop the pan to get it out so we tried our best to pull it, even using a huge chain to tug with but all that did was mangle it. after we gave up we did what anyone would do, ask their brother for a new one :lol:
he said we could have the one from his old engine, so it was decided we'd pull our pan to get our ruined one out and use his. sounds simple again, well of course his wouldn't come out either. so we pulled his pan as well but that didnt help, that sucker was stuck for good, we gave up and stole his windage tray for our kart :D. we decided our dipstick could be salvaged since after we got it out and straightened it the stick would still go in and out.
While the engine was out of the kart and on its side we did the tranny screen as well, its probably a good thing we did because we found a screw in the bottom of the pan. its for the screen cover thing, it must have come loose and fallen out at some point.
anyway heres some pics...
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/engine008.jpg)
having it on its side like that made things really easy
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/engine007.jpg)
here you can see how bad the dipstick was bent
this WAS supposed to show all the dirt that was in the the tranny but the camera isnt really good enough
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/engine004.jpg)
and of course i forgot to take a pic of the windage tray but im sure you all know what that looks like anyway.
also forgot a pic of the roll cage.
next time
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:( Stealing all the goodies for my truck
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haha wow that looks safe, something that can go 75mph made out of bed rails and conduit. hahahaha i want a ride. where are the burn out videos? they better arrive soon, real soon. even just driving videos. is that actually a diesel trans? the diesels go into neutral when you let off the gas. "economy"
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Yeah it's a true diesel tranny. I expect this to be done over Christmas, not that I have any say in it :lol:
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You know that tranny is probably worth enough to fun rebuidling a real 4 wheeler of some sort hahahaha
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well it looks like its in perfect condition for burn outs so what are you guys waiting for?
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No one wants auto boxes. And if someone does make an offer.
Brakes are the reason why there are no burn outs, that and the fact that we live in town and cops don't like things like this on the roads
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haha they don;t like it where i live either but it never stopped me haha.
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hahaha yeah i cant wait for some nice burnouts, i hope to get the motor back in this weekend and get it fired up. maybe i'll have a vid for ya!
Im not sure how much time i'll have over christmas to work on it. i bought a diesel chevette in alberta so im bussing it out with my dad and driving it back 8)
should be lots of fun
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NICE you scored the diesel?
Dad's going with you? :shock:
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you bet. the 26th till the 31st probably
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Can I come?
Edit, actually that's a bad idea. I'll want to stop at everyones house along the way and check out their diesels :lol:
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haha youd have to buy a bus ticket, its too late to get the 14 day advance deal but you could do the 7 day advance, i think that ones 160 or something
edit* id like to go see that guy with the 60 chevettes but thats a bit further and im sure we'll be doing enough driving already. maybe if you go instead of dad we could do all that
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We'll see how this headgasket job goes. Maybe we can just drive out
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so heres some pics of the roll cage previously mentioned.
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/junk055.jpg)
here you can see how wimpy the old one is
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/junk056.jpg)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/kart/junk057.jpg)
of course at this point its just sitting on there. i should have the welder out this weekend, maybe tomorrow.
we might even take it for a quick rip down the street, hopefully i'll have a vid for you.
and heres the car thats been keeping me from getting any work done on the kart
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l52/znate/car/Diesel/DieselVette.jpg)
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the diesels go into neutral when you let off the gas. "economy"
also saves the passengers the discomfort of being rattled to death
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Someone should ask where that Chevette came from and for an engine bay picture :wink:
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Someone should ask where that Chevette came from and for an engine bay picture :wink:
i think everyone knows
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Someone should ask where that Chevette came from and for an engine bay picture :wink:
i think everyone knows
well i don't spill it?
Duane
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Someone should ask where that Chevette came from and for an engine bay picture :wink:
i think everyone knows
well i don't spill it?
Duane
the storys here
http://members.boardhost.com/Vette_Man/msg/1199163953.html
all its missing is the engine bay pic
and to keep this post on topic, im going out to work on the kart in an hour. my friend dan is bringing his digi so we should have pics and hopefully a vid
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oh wow i never seen frost accumalate like that? and i never knew those chevets had a diesel? those things are long gone around here!
thanks Duane
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Tyler, I'll take that GR650 off your bro's hands...PM me eh...
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PMed with his email address
How about some updates Nate?
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progress is slow, we're stuck on a seized wheel bearing and trying to figure out how to get the throttle to work. anyone know how the beetle or other rear mounted engine vehicle does it? i havnt got a chance to search the net yet but im sure the info is there.
we tried putting 1/8th cable in a steel fuel line just slightly larger and running it to the back but there was too much resistance and the throttle stuck (i guess its not a throttle in a diesel but im not sure the correct phrase)
i thought about a mechanical linkage. we might try that next.
ideas welcome :lol:
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Since it is already so ghetto ;) why not a linkage with a hand lever :D
I think my skoda just used a pretty fine cable. Maybe some lube in the tube will be enough to help reduce the friction. A cool setup with pulleys might work. Any old mechano lying around?
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yea try using graphite to lube your line. that stuff won't gunk up like oils :)
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anyone know how the beetle or other rear mounted engine vehicle does it?
From what I remember, the Beetle throttle pedal has the pivot on the floor which turns a cam that is offset on the right side of the pedal right next to the "hump" in the floor. The cable runs right along the center "hump" in the floor through a tube, and connects to the cam. Pretty simple.
Brendan
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use a bike brake cable?
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What you should do is put an arm on the throttle on the pump and attach a spring off of that so you are getting more leverage to pull it back to the no throttle position.
You could probably use an e-brake cable and have it on a lever instead of a foot pedal
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all good ideas. i think we'll try using the graphite first since it sounds the easiest, then if that doesn't work we'll play around with some of the other ideas.
we're set to work on it saturday so hopefully there will be some progress to report.
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i like tyler's spring idea. its also sort of a throttle-stick safety for down the road when the lube breaks down suddenly and the throttle sticks.
also if the throttle linkage is lubed and nice and loose i'm sure that will help.
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graphite should last a very long time. as long as its nice n dry. i used to use that stuff on my bike brake lines. kids who used liquid lubes worked great for a little while, then became really gummy... needed to repeat the process over and over. while mine was a one time deal 8)
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as long as its nice n dry.
It's a go-cart, I doubt it would stay dry for more the 5 minutes the first time they take it out :lol:
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as long as its nice n dry.
It's a go-cart, I doubt it would stay dry for more the 5 minutes the first time they take it out :lol:
well hopefully water is ok... oil would gunk it up even worse with graphite :lol:
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wheel bearing is now fixed and i think we figured out a way to get that throttle to work. we picked the stuff up but we still have to try it. its to hard to explain so i'll just take some pics once we get working on it.
we're so close now i can smell the burnin rubber.
if it wasnt for the distraction of guitar hero we might have got the throttle finished too :lol:
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I guess I shouldn't have brought guitar hero home with me :oops: