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General Information => Upgrades (non engine related ) => Topic started by: Riverfurm on September 27, 2007, 06:00:51 am
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I have an 86 golf two door that I use for work and carry about 100 Lbs. of tools. The rear struts are completely shot. So I want to replace the struts and springs. What springs that can carry the extra weight can I use????
Will springs from a Caddy work?
Thanks
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If i recall correctly the caddy has a different suspension set up...i believe it has leaf springs in the back!!!!
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100 lbs isn't much at all... i've loaded down my '86 jetta with 3 heavy set people (maybe 400 lbs combined?) in the rear, and then me and someone else in the front too... damn that car was a pig... it just loved to haul heavy loads!!!
it had new shocks in the rear, but not sure which ones. it did sit pretty low... i would recommend going with heavy duty shocks & springs from bilstein if you want it to last.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/burnyourmoney/untitled-2.jpg)
I won't even tell you what I put in my jetta :shock:
Anyways, passat rear shocks and springs bolt in (change the upper strut mount). They are more heavy duty and will give you an inch or two of lift
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Umm, I had a Mazda 323 engine in the trunk of my Jetta for about 3 days. I probably have about 100lbs in spare parts and fluids right now. :twisted:
It is possible that Passat springs may work... unless someone can say otherwise.
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The Parts Place in MI sells HD springs for the MkII chassis, and they work excellent. ~$100/pr front or rear.
Edit:
Link to previous discussion:
http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=60011&highlight=#60011
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Called yesterday. Very helpfull sold me some HD shocks and springs.
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Umm, I had a Mazda 323 engine in the trunk of my Jetta for about 3 days. I probably have about 100lbs in spare parts and fluids right now. :twisted:
It is possible that Passat springs may work... unless someone can say otherwise.
Is there enough room for the girl and the frying pan :?: If not let me know :D
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The Parts Place in MI sells HD springs for the MkII chassis, and they work excellent. ~$100/pr front or rear.
Edit:
Link to previous discussion:
http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=60011&highlight=#60011
id like to revive this thread, is The Parts Place still a going concern? and is the topic above gone?
Basically, I have the same question, Ive got a VO tank out of a much larger and heavier car im considering installing, 18 gallons and filtration equipment, and I want to beef up the rear suspension to hold it up.
my questions are what year passat rear shocks, springs, and strut mounts do I need to fit a Mk2 4 door jetta, also 86? and are they heavier duty than the HD shocks and springs for a mk2 that The Parts Place apparently sell?
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The topic probably still exists somewhere, but the link is the old style from before the crash. Unfortunately it also looks like a bad link so I can't pull it up. It is late though so I could be out to lunch
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germanautoparts has hd springs for mk2 52.50 a piece. if not use vr6 b3 or b4 springs with 1 coil chopped off. or make a lift kit with some coduit couplers and an exhaust clamp works great...
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A hockey puck is a super easy way to effectively increase spring rate.
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A hockey puck is a super easy way to effectively increase spring rate.
still need to try that one. right now im running the lift kit with the couplers clamped to the shock i carry over 500 lbs regularly with no issues. i need to trim them down though without load my car rides like a horse drawn carriage.
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The Parts Place in MI sells HD springs for the MkII chassis, and they work excellent. ~$100/pr front or rear.
Edit:
Link to previous discussion:
http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=60011&highlight=#60011
Agreed, I have a pair in my rabbit. Rides great and has never bottomed out.
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parts place still has the HD springs for the 86 jetta, item number on their website 2144. Just ordered up a set
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A hockey puck is a super easy way to effectively increase spring rate.
still need to try that one. right now im running the lift kit with the couplers clamped to the shock i carry over 500 lbs regularly with no issues. i need to trim them down though without load my car rides like a horse drawn carriage.
Over the summer I did the coupler mod and yeah it rides a bit high in back when the VO tank goes dry. But I never worry about it dragging its butt any more. Why did MK1 and 2s have such crappy springs? Designed for a one driver only and they just happened to throw three extra seats in there.
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j475/Orcoaster/WVO%20Build/LiftingRearEnd9.jpg)
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j475/Orcoaster/WVO%20Build/LiftingRearEnd3.jpg)
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Why did MK1 and 2s have such crappy springs? Designed for a one driver only and they just happened to throw three extra seats in there.
The cars in question are between 20 and 35 years old, how long do you expect springs to last?
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Yep, even new they would squat with one extra person in them. Growing up, between my aunt, grandma, mom, and cousins we had 12 rabbits for my uncle to work on. The all would sag a bit even brand new.
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Just purchase some moog cargo springs and call it a day. I am almost positive thats what partsplace is selling as HD springs for almost double the price. Go onto rockauto and look for moog variable rate springs. It will have cc at the end of the product model.
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My guess would be liftoff oversteer on wet roads, some early attempts at front drive cars could be a bit scary if you changed your mind mid corner. After spinning a Mk2 VW Polo across a roundabout the first day I used it, I then realised that VW assume one knows how to drive even with what is a 1000cc shopping car, none of that japanese understeer. So perhaps the rear springs are soft to keep the tyres loaded more evenly over camber changes.
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Interesting theory. And here I thought they just didn't figure the proper weight vs spring combo in the rear.
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The simple theory is most likely correct. ;)