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Engine Specific Info and Questions => TDI Engine -General Info => Topic started by: Tintin on August 25, 2007, 06:49:46 pm
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The base of a jetta 1994 with the doors and quarter of Golf 1995, I took some pic during the montage/démontage of the parts.
The project is done at wasted time, that should be ready for the autumn.
Disassembling of the golf:
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Reassembly of the parts on the jetta:
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Good, here the continuation, I finally bought a ARL TDI 150CV of Golf 4.
I started has to prepare the new engine mount, because I install the engine and tranny with Golf 4 mount.
I install the VNT20 like this to facilitate the way for the down pipe between rear drive shaft and body:
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Now, the engine mount, I have to built a part of the bracket mount which is screwed on the engine, because that of origin is too large and does not pass between the member and the belt cover:
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The part under the hood:
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The reason for which I used the MK4 engine mount, it is to be able to install the 02M 6 speed tranny, have there which do it differently, but I choose another way.
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You will have an incredibly wicked car when you are done!
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This is quite similar to my swap. I used a '94 Golf and installed a PD150 with 6 speed using a mount bracket from dutchdub.com. Here is the build thread - http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=164162
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i too am working on a similar project... PD130 & 6 speed into MK2 jetta.
keep the information coming! I am grateful!!!
named tintin, there is another style mount for the PD type engines, that attaches itself to the lower firewall to limit the engine from stressing the upper mounts too badly. Is that why you're using the original rear mount?
i'm not close to my motor, but maybe sometime i will take a pic of what it looks like. it mounts to the bottom portion of the motor (to clear the turbo)
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For first, I installed the motor with a 5 speed ALH tranny, and with 3 original MK3 engine mount, therefore, that gives me the original place where must settle the engine, and start to built the MK4 mount, fixed the MK4 mount on the engine and the member, after I removed the MK3 mount, the engine is still at the same place with new mount.
In theory, when I will install the 6 speed box, the whole should be perfect.
There remains to me the "dog-bone" shaped mount to be installed, and I plan to keep the MK3 frount mount to lower the engine torque movement, But, I'm not sure.
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vwmike: yes, I had seen your post on TDIclub, you did a beautiful work, and there is good information inside your post for help me :wink:
For now and and as soon as possible, I need the version of the bentley for the TDI150, I need the complete diagram wiring harness, and some another specification.
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vwmike: yes, I had seen your post on TDIclub, you did a beautiful work, and there is good information inside your post for help me :wink:
For now and and as soon as possible, I need the version of the bentley for the TDI150, I need the complete diagram wiring harness, and some another specification.
there is someone in Europe who has installed a PD150 into a MK2 jetta with very very simple wiring. just enough to get it running good :)
(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2777/dsc04469bm0.jpg)
(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8916/dsc04467ci7.jpg)
supposedly he used the side mounts and the 'dogbone' but didn't give good pics of it... this is from Petr vw4motion.
i'm also switching to manual steering. are you going to try and keep the power steering tintin?
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For the wiring, it's exactly where I go, just enough to run the motor.
glow plug, rad fan, etc... with MK3 wiring.
Jo , on your first photo I see a part of the rear mount bracket.
Yes, I keep the power steering, it's plug and play with PD engine, I remember with my ALH that requires to modify the hoses, but, not for PD.
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I like her restrictive part on the IC piping.....
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It's a joke, I am too meticulous :wink:
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Martin,
This is going to be an awesome project! I can't wait to see it someday I hope in person!
Joe
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Martin,
This is going to be an awesome project! I can't wait to see it someday I hope in person!
Joe
Thank.
Elmira it's not too far..... have could profit from it to "fine tune" your pump :wink:
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I had a small fun today, I screwed up the 6 speeds on the engine, and the first thing which I saw, it's that it do not have there enough space for my turbo set-up, because the transfert case is too big and take some place :shock: I will have to install it in another way.
After I looking at the engine with the 6 speeds installed, I wondered whether all that could fit under the hood, and how much space it have between the transfer case and the power steering rack, it's a very big pieces of mechanic :lol: I was relieved to see that that fit, but it is really really tight.
PS: for a 6 speed quattro conversion, there are no way to keep the MK3 motor mount, the passenger side cardan interfer with the subframe bracket motor mount and with the rear motor mount bracket.
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Nice Martin, good job, cant wait to see it :twisted:
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Here is how my turbo is mounted:
(http://www.tdtuning.com/pictures/golf/pd150/build/weldedturbo1.jpg)
(http://www.tdtuning.com/pictures/golf/pd150/build/weldedturbo2.jpg)
I reclocked it since this picture down here but you get an idea of how close it fits to the intake manifold:
(http://www.tdtuning.com/pictures/golf/pd150/build/plate15.jpg)
I did it this way because if the turbo were facing the other direction I wouldn't have room for the exhaust.
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You use the same way that I use on my ALH set-up.
Now, my ALH is sold, but, I kept my turbo set-up on a shelf, if I do not manage to install it downwards,
I will re-use these parts:
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Mike: How space you have between the turbo and firewall?
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I can stick my hand between the VNT actuator and the firewall. It does not hit the firewall and there is plenty of room. I have stock mounts with the exception of the turn2 lower "hockey puck" on the front mount.
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Here is what my adapter plate looks like. This is actually the first one I made. I went and made a second one because I didn't like the way this one fit. I did this on a regular drill press with drill bits and a hole saw.
(http://www.tdtuning.com/pictures/golf/pd150/build/plate12.jpg)
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How you fix the adaptor on the turbo, I see an allen screw, and the others?
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Update for the moment I do not have much work on the Jetta, I joined/buy all the parts before undertaking large work.
The most difficult part, will be to build the wiring, to help me for the wiring, I received a PDF file from vwmike (thank much), I check also with a elsawin (audi/seat pd150) program on my computer, and I compare the golf/bora PD150 ECU wiring, it's identical, I check for comparison the ALH ECU wiring, I see that without the wiring for injection pump, the remains seems to be the same pinout.
Yesterday evening I looked by curiosity in the Esitronic Bosch program, after a long search (this software are 7GO of file) .... I found a surprise ..... :D I found the complete Bosch ECU pinout with some more info that I need, I'm happy, with all this information, that should be well.
I plan to start the motor the next week, by hoping that the ECU will not make smoked when I connect battery ... :shock: :lol:
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2 of the bolts to straight through the manifold, adapter plate and into the turbo. I had to widen the holes in the manifold to do this but it worked very well. The one allen bolt fastens the adapter plate to the turbo and then the 2 bolts also fasten the manifold to the adapter plate.
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I do not have much spare time, but in weekend I have do some work.
VR6 subframe which I removed the bracket supports:
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And I have repaints the engine bay, now I am ready to prick mechanics inside:
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lookin good....lookin good!
Man, a PD swap into the B3 with the possibily of synchro down the road sounds so much more fun than the 1z/AHU build...oye!
Nice job though Martin! Doing very nice!
Joe
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The only news, I ended the wiring and install the engine in the car.
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Great progress! How did you prep the engine bay for that paint? it looks excellent!
I've been thinking about adding some stress bars to my car, do you think this one would benefit much? I've photoshopped it so everyone knows what portion that it beefs up.
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well... I have all the necessary equipment for make a body work, I manage well with the body work too.
For engine bay, clean, sand, mask the part, prime and paint...
Very good idea for the eurosport bar, on my car, it have there the MK4 pendulum support (dogbone) which can harm the installation of that, but I can modified or to even built it myself.
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I worked on the project in weekend, I almost finished the front part.
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Awesome Martin!!! Lookin good!
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good job tintin!
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that's going to be one fast PD :twisted:
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I hope and I would be satisfied with 210-215WHP, If It's possible, But with all the quattro system + the adding in weight, that will eat some HP.
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I hope and I would be satisfied with 210-215WHP, If It's possible, But with all the quattro system + the adding in weight, that will eat some HP.
the mk3 is a bit lighter than a mk4 though, so that will help quite a bit :)
210-215WHP would be sweet. the torque would be even better :)
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Mike and TinTin, I understand that you both are running a proper ecu but what is the bare minimum to make that engine run as in the European example that was cited? It appears that other than the standard glowplug and starter there are 5 or 6 wires that feed into the injection system harness. I understand that the unit injectors are fired by rockers off of the cam shaft so if the engine is turning they should be able to fire but what takes place of the shut of solenoid?
Is each injector simply pulse modulated meaning that if you give them constant power and turn the key the engine will run, then cut power to shut it off? How would you control fueling?
It has been a few years since I have looked unther the valve cover of a PD but I seem to remember that the injector wiring was just a simple power and ground to the solenoid.
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It's simple, It have 5 wire from the ECU to the injector unit, 1 common ground and 4 wire for each injector, it's the ECU which control all the injector.
On a VE TDI, this 5 wire is used for the pump, and the inj. no:3 is replaced by the Cam position sensor, temp sensor is in the return line on a PD motor, But both ECU is not compatible.
When the key is turned OFF, all the power is cut to the ECU and the engine shut off, that's all.
There are around 50 wire from the ECU to the motor and all the accesrories (MAF, N75, MAP, ect.....)
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amen!
good job martin
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I start the motor today, All It's perfect, I'm happy :D
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Great to hear Martin!!! Congrats on the "first start"
Joe
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Well, engine bay is done, the motor runs fine, I let running the engine for 30 minutes and to check with Vag-COM, all seems to me perfect for the moment.
For the axle, I used the MK4 VR6 24V 6 speed, they are telescopic axles and direct fit on MK3 body with 6 speed, I'm very happy for this, less work and less money.
There is the diesel tank to install, and exhaust, and I could go to tests on road.
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Tintin, I PM'd you.
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Any updates?
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Yes, I will put photo soon, for the moment I finish painting the car.
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Is that a exhaust manifold off a na diesel?
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Is that a exhaust manifold off a na diesel?
Nop, It's a TD e-manifold for the moment, with the transfert case, It do not have enough space to play with other manifold, anyway I do not have the proper competence to fab one of this.
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Well, the Jetta is a very funni car to drive with this engine, the MK4 mount is very quiet too.
I not install the quattro system, but I will install it this spring.
The Chip tuning is now done by Redrotor http://www.mikrotuning.com/index.php It's a very nice chip, no overboost, no shudder, the VNT20 spool very fast, etc..... Im very happy, Marc said to me around 230-235BHP, later I will make a dyno to know the real power.
The clutch is a little hard to push, like a truk clutch.. :? , but I found a very nice feeling with a weird set-up, I put a 6 pad ceramic sprung center into the original 240mm dual mass unit, :o , low cost and it hold the massive power, without any shudder or chatering sound, and Im very surprise that do not produce shudder when I declutch in first at a stop, It's smooth.
(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5112/im002051nf4.th.jpg) (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=im002051nf4.jpg)
I take a couple of pic of the car, the car is not washed, but I would take of another photo later, for now they are the winters here.
I put also 4 new winter tire with stud, 195/65/15, It's very tight around the fender.
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ca doit etre marrant avec les 4 pneus neige :wink:
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Two video here:
40-160KM/H
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q-jQYsOPCs
80-120 KM/H
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVTa5u7tXLE
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Very nice. Love the sound. I counted out loud when you did your 40-160 (25mph to 100mph) run. About 13 seconds. Pretty fast. I wonder what your 0-100kph time will be when you have the quatro set up installed. You should be able to do a very good 4-wheel drive, full power launch :twisted: What boost are you running?
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I'm also curious to know the 0-100km/h, I need traction below 50-60km to made this.
24-25 psi from 2000 to 2500, 26-28 psi from 2500 to 4500, and fuel cut-off at 4800.
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Well, engine bay is done, the motor runs fine, I let running the engine for 30 minutes and to check with Vag-COM, all seems to me perfect for the moment.
For the axle, I used the MK4 VR6 24V 6 speed, they are telescopic axles and direct fit on MK3 body with 6 speed, I'm very happy for this, less work and less money.
There is the diesel tank to install, and exhaust, and I could go to tests on road.
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do you have photo of the v6 axles ?
i found some and i want to know if they're same.
thanks.
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Unfortunately I did not take a pic, but if you show me these axle, I can say to you if it's the good, I could identify it.
Edit: I found a model on Ebay, look at the cv joint tranny side: http://cgi.cafr.ebay.ca/2004-Volkswagen-Golf-GTi-2-8-VR6-6-speed-dirver-axle_W0QQitemZ350015224506QQihZ022QQcategoryZ33738QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
Telescopic It's from GTI VR6 6 speeds only, I do not know about 1.8T 6 speeds and I think It's not telescopic.
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I used New Beetle S axles on my Golf. I found the drivers side was a bit on the short side but fine if the car is lowered (my car is probably lowered about 3-4 inches). I had to shorten the passenger side axle a bit.
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Well, the car run great, It's my daily car, I do not have any problem with it.
Here some pic of the car:
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And finally, here the dyno result I had made in september, It's not a 100% nice curve, I had some problem with the VNT control, the turbo actuator is in a weird position and the travel is not linear, combined with a bendind actuator rod to get the proper aligment... :roll:
Since the dyno session, I rework on the Turbo atuator an make some adjustment on the N75 map, now I get a better control of the boost, I plan on another dyno session before the winter season with bigger nozzle.
I also make a dyno run with stock configuration, but I only get 18-19psi of boost due to the laggy VNT20 in the stock configuration instead of 22psi for the PD150, combined with my home made 3'' maf housing.... but I can easily estimate 130-135WHP for this engine for the stock setting.
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Very Nice Martin! Can't wait to see the updated dyno with the slightly larger nozzles you were talking about.
Had any snow to run her about in yet?
Joe
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That is a very nice HP & torque curve. You have much better torque than I do in the 2000-2600RPM range. What is your EMP spike before vanes open at 2250RPM? What kinda of EGT's do you run through that RPM range at WOT? I am very curious because I envy the spool up you have. 8)
What injectors are you upgrading too, Race783's?
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Turbo is GT2052V, dont know EMP, I do not have gauge installed to monitor EMP.
EGT max 1400F, almost no smoke.
Stock injector and nozzle for now, the uppgrade is for later.
I make all my possible to make the turbo to spool fast and much, but like on the dyno It's a little too fast (surge), I lower it a bit.
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I siezed my first turbo in about 30minutes do to high EMP (+60psi) :? chalk it up to a learning experiance. It would be interesting to know what EMP you needed to hit to get that level of spool before vanes first open. You must have some smoke below 2200 RPM WOT, no? I can see it must be very clean burn after that. Are you planning on upgrading your turbo to a VNT22 or 25 to go along with the Race783 injectors? All my research has shown me that the PD150 injector and the VNT2052 & 56 are a perfect match for one anouther as they both max out around around 230BHP.
Too bad we don't live closer, I would love to swing by and take a look at your project. May be some day I will be in that area to visit some relatives. :)
I hear you know where I can get a PD injector install kit for a good price, would you share that info?
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I have this turbo since several years, and I had installed on another engine (ALH) before the PD150, never had problem with that.
Here a small video of the spoolup on the ALH:
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=FFgUr2Mw9UU
Maybe this would be interesting to see the EMP, but it not worries me, I'm not all day long with the pedal to the floor, and I rarely press 100% pedal at 2000rpm.
Here a pic of the requested boost, As you can see I ask 28psi only at 2600rpm when WOT:
(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6705/turbowf6.th.jpg) (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=turbowf6.jpg)
No smoke at spoolup, I work several hour, try and error, on the chip to get no smoke and fast spool as I can.
I buy The PD injector O-ring at the dealer Bosch around here, there are nothing mysterious with that.
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wow Tintin,
that turned out to be a nice looking car!
if i send you a MK1 jetta and caddy could you make me a crew cab all wheel drive TDI dually truck out of them?
i prolly could not afford it even if i sold my harley and 57chevy!
but nice job on yours ! very nice!
Duane
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The sky is the limit if money is not....... :lol:
It's a crazy project you have. I can surely make what you want, but loooots of work..!!
Crew-Cab and short box (shorten the caddy box) or long box? it will make a very long truck :?
How about the dual wheel conversion? like the dually toyota pick-up in the 1980's ........ It would take a monobeam axle.
Thank for all comment.
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The sky is the limit if money is not....... :lol:
It's a crazy project you have. I can surely make what you want, but loooots of work..!!
Crew-Cab and short box (shorten the caddy box) or long box? it will make a very long truck :?
How about the dual wheel conversion? like the dually toyota pick-up in the 1980's ........ It would take a monobeam axle.
Thank for all comment.
if i ever win the lottery your prolly the only one i would trust building one of my crazy projects! and it would be a crew cab long bed dually 4x4 TDI ! but i guess i'll keep pluging away with that poptester i got from ya! i wonder how many i would have to do to have enough ? wow a lot!
Duane