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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: numbnuts on August 21, 2007, 10:01:36 am
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Hi, I have been pricing up the EGT's as i want to turn up the boost on my 91 GTD. They seem so expensive, are there any cheap ones out there? And from reading the guides on here, i am right in thinking i need one before i turn up the boost aren't i? :?
Cheers Joel
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"Westach" makes an inexpensive somewhat ugly non powered aircraft gauge you might want to investigate. ~$80CDN with the probe.
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http://www.egauges.com/vdo_grou.asp?Series=EVA_R
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Watch out for some of the cheaper gauges on the market. Generally speaking, some of the cheaper gauges are also slower reacting. I had a VDO in the past and I thought it was garbage. I have an Autometer now and it is a lot faster though I wish it could be even faster.
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The westach was super fast, at least as fast as the electronic Tdi gauge I have, that is why I recommend it, very good for the $$$ and I believe westach would be more easily accessible in the UK. (common for home builder aircraft kits to use such gauges so any aircraft places near you should have them).
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If your using the gauge to protect your engine you should buy a quality one. That would be like wering a cheap ass helmet from wal-mart.
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The westach stuff is good, made for aircraft :) Just not pretty.
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Gauge, autometer. Not cheap but I've heard good things about it.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=ATM-3343
Probe and extension lead
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/micro8egt.php
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/micro10egt.php
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I paid $120 for my Autometer and it came with a weld in bung, pipe thread bung and a hose clamp set up that just requires a hole drilled. Plus of coruse the probe and lead. Fonud it brand new on ebay.
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My current tdi setup was ~160 shipped to my door :) It is a 2 in 1 analog boost and digital egt that scales the digits.
poor quality camera phone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHYxfJLCszc
View more pics at tdiclub.com search "tdi boost gauge"
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I agree, it worked really well, it just didn't fit the MK IV decor. I am still using the westach probe with the new gauge since it did work so well. for the money hard to beat.
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I bought a fairly inexpensive one before I really read this forum much, but it seems to work ok and has what I think is a decent response, but I haven't ever seen another to compare it to so I don't know for sure. I'm sure it isn't the same quality as the better gauges, but as long as it keeps me from cooking my engine, that's what counts. http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=192
$89 including the probe and 6' of wire. The only bad thing is the tinted one was almost impossible to read in the daytime due to me having such an open vehicle that lets in a lot of light. Probably would have been fine with tinted windows. I ended up making my own clear bezel.
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My current tdi setup was ~160 shipped to my door :) It is a 2 in 1 analog boost and digital egt that scales the digits.
poor quality camera phone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHYxfJLCszc
View more pics at tdiclub.com search "tdi boost gauge"
That's really cool, but I cannot find that setup on TDIClub. Searching "TDI boost gauge" nets me 1317 hits. If I narrow it down with your username I still get 313 hits (in 47.9 seconds) and I picked through about half of those and still cant find it! Can you point me a little closer? Where did you get it from?
Thanks,
Brendan
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Here is the thread that started it all...very long, some prototype pics at teh begining, but new finished units at the end.
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=155230&highlight=tdi+boost+gauge
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Those gauges are the shiznit!!!
I figure I can get, volts, water temp, boost, egt, oil press and oil temp all combined on 3 gauges for $500.00 shipped!
That's awesome!!
dan
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Yeah not exactly cheap, but they are pretty sweet. I like mine for sure.
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Heck I figured I was gonna be spending at least $500 in single gauges anyway, then figureing out where to mount 6 gauges in a MK2 was gonna be fun if I wanted to maintain the stereo.
I just added up Auto Meter Ultra-Lite II gauges and was @ $485.00 and hadent added the oil temp gauge or shiping/handeling etc.
These gauges are right there on pricing and look good to boot.
dan
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I like the quality, the glass is very nice and the aluminum is really nice. They make aircraft gauges normally :)
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Heck I figured I was gonna be spending at least $500 in single gauges anyway, then figureing out where to mount 6 gauges in a MK2 was gonna be fun if I wanted to maintain the stereo.
I just added up Auto Meter Ultra-Lite II gauges and was @ $485.00 and hadent added the oil temp gauge or shiping/handeling etc.
These gauges are right there on pricing and look good to boot.
dan
Check out http://www.prosportgauges.com/. Their prices are the best I've seen...
Later,
Mark.
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Those are good prices but where the hell do you mount 6 gauges in a MK2?
Any make an A pillar mount for three gauges? I can mount the other 3 in the Radio location.
dan
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Another thing to add is you cannot dim those gauges, they are on or off.
I can see this being a problem in a snow storm @ nite in traffic.
"I was blinded by my gauges officer"
dan
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Those are good prices but where the hell do you mount 6 gauges in a MK2?
Any make an A pillar mount for three gauges? I can mount the other 3 in the Radio location.
It's not a MkII, but I am planning on putting twelve gauges of various types in my '88 Fox wagon. :D
Dash is cracking, I have fiberglass skills and a connection with a plasticized spray on bedliner shop... so we have custom dash pad in the works, with a built-in and hopefully aesthetics matching place to put the gauges! :lol:
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How can you put 12 different gauges in one vehicle? There aren't 12 different things to measure. Maybe you haven't discovered that you can use multiple senders and switch between them. :wink:
Andrew
Well, they did let me out of the asylum a couple days early...
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-outside temp (1)
-inside temp (1)
-oil pressure in pan (1)
-oil pressure at head (1)
-speedometer (1)
-rpm (1)
-clock (1)
-volts (1)
-current draw (1)
-fuel (1)
-boost (1)
-egt (1)
-coolant temp (1)
-hourmeter (1)
-compass (1)
TOTAL = 15
:shock:
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1 egt per cyl on the exhaust manifold?
2 boost guages for the twins?
Fuel / Air filter restriction guages?
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And of course Fatmobile's favorite... a vacuum gauge on the pump side of the fuel filter so you can detect clogged filters etc.
I'm adding current metering as we speak... finally found a good ammeter with a remote shunt.
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Good find with the remote ammeter so you don't have to run those fat wires into the passenger compartment, one of them shorts and it'll get way hot, way fast.
Of course the vaccum gauge.
Let's see on the Golf I have EGT, boost, and fuel pressure on the A pillar.
Standard oil temp, pressure and volts in the center console.
Some A2, Jetta GLIs had an MFA that would post outside temp, oil temp, RPM, MPG (fed by a vacuum sensor) I think, hours of driving and maybe a trip meter.... all in a space of about a couple square inches in the stock cluster.
A button on the wiper stalk was used to change between readings.
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Intake Air Temp
Compressor Discharge Temp
Intercooler Discharge Temp
Turbine Inlet Temp
Turbine Discharge Temp
Boost Pressure
Oil Pressure
Oil Temperature
Water Temperature
Fuel Vacuum (Filter)
System Voltage
Glow Plug Amps
There, twelve gauges. All the different ones air-related are mostly so I can plug and play experiment with different turbos and intercooling methods and get some good, solid, comprehensive data on what each does to the induction setup.
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And of course Fatmobile's favorite... a vacuum gauge on the pump side of the fuel filter so you can detect clogged filters etc.
I'm adding current metering as we speak... finally found a good ammeter with a remote shunt.
Care to share your source? :D