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Engine Specific Info and Questions => Non VW Group Diesel => Topic started by: prysm on October 28, 2005, 03:10:19 am

Title: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: prysm on October 28, 2005, 03:10:19 am
anybody knows of some simple engine modification for non turbo diesel to improve fuel consumption?

thanks
Title: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: prysm on October 28, 2005, 11:26:51 am
thanks for the reply

I am considering the low restriction intake as an initial step in improving fuel economy. I will also try to fabricate an a cold air intake piping with larger input to also act as air scoop.

thanks again
Title: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: zyewdall on October 28, 2005, 12:58:20 pm
A number of people have put 4" ductwork to the front of the car from the intake on the NA 1.6 VWs.  From what they say, it peps them up a bit over the restrictive stock snorkel, and probably increases mileage a little because of freer breathing.  I'm going to do this on mine when I get it installed (maybe this weekend....?)
Title: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: VWRacer on October 29, 2005, 12:20:54 pm
Boost your cold tire pressure to the max rating on the sidewall. That alone should give you a couple of MPG.

After doing the cold-air intake and tire pressuremods, the other 'big ticket' item is to openup the exhaust. Put on a set of gas engine headers and a 2 1/2" exhaust with a straight-through low restriction muffler. Diesels have no cam overlap, so don't really 'need' headers, but headers and a bigger pipe reduce backpressure and allow the engine to breath as efficiently as possible.

Those three items alone will give you nearly all the big fuel economy advances you can get. From there it's fine tuning. Advance IP timing to maybe 1.1mm (help me out here, guys!), back off the max fuel screw, etc.

Good luck and keep us advised on how it's going!
Title: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: houseofdiesel on November 07, 2005, 01:24:53 pm
I ran a cherry bomb muffler (basically no restriction resonator) on stock diameter pipes and set timing to 1.15mm lift. I increased my fuel economy about 25% (best was 900 miles a tank, worst 600 miles in -25C constant after mods) and raised the top speed to 100mph from 80. Stock intake. This car had compression 360-500-500-360 and ran well once the exhaust was openend up, I think the muffler has plugging up from soot due to poor compression and factory spec timing.
I think a cold air intake via hood scoop would work well, but I was happy enough with the exhaust mods to stop tinkering. I find shifting early helps alot too, if you play enough with the fueling and timing the engines power band seems to be 2000-2500 rpms.
Greg
Title: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: prysm on December 12, 2005, 09:50:52 pm
just an update...

The cold air intake was a sucess. You can initially feel the effects during accelaration. fuel economy is a bit better, However I am still trying to figure out the best position for the pipes.

The header, 2.5inch exhaust and a the muffler after asking around needs to be customized and would cost too much right now so I can not impliment it :(

thanks everyone
prysm
Title: Re: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: CoastalDefender on March 06, 2010, 05:52:36 pm
The header, 2.5inch exhaust and a the muffler after asking around needs to be customized and would cost too much right now so I can not impliment it :(

thanks everyone
prysm
Header not changed, but I just replaced my piping and muffler 2.5" from header->out, and the bill was $32USD for the muffler, $95USD installed with new piping.
Title: Re: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: 745 turbogreasel on March 08, 2010, 02:46:46 am
Make sure your pump and injectors are like new, add an EGT gauge, and  keep it under 600*.
Title: Re: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: smutts on June 05, 2010, 03:27:31 pm
Look up transfer pressure, or internal pump pressure.

my best guesses for the 1.6 TD's are as follows...
36-46psi@1000rpm, 67-75psi@3000rpm, 94-103psi@4500rpm,
these are engine rpm's. Google "hagar" and "smileage" for how to check the pressures.
Title: Re: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: 8v-of-fury on June 10, 2010, 12:16:19 pm
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Title: Re: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: burn_your_money on June 10, 2010, 06:48:44 pm
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Title: Re: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: smutts on June 12, 2010, 02:48:45 pm
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Title: Re: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: catlin_cava on June 13, 2010, 12:27:15 pm
December 12th, 2005 I was rocking a 2002 VW Jetta TDI Drivers Edition in the backwoods of Nova Scotia  ;D What where you doing?
Title: Re: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 13, 2010, 12:30:38 pm
drivin around a white butt rockin 80's toyota pickup.. 2wd, and lots of mpg. not like a diesel tho.. holy crap, i was 16 too...
Title: Re: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: catlin_cava on June 13, 2010, 03:24:54 pm
i was in my last year of high school, and was 19 lol
Title: Re: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on June 14, 2010, 10:55:40 am
you werent a super senior were ya?  ;)
Title: Re: anybody know of a non turbo engine mod for fuel economy
Post by: smutts on June 28, 2010, 03:16:03 pm
Me? Driving across the bridge at Milau, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millau_Viaduct (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millau_Viaduct)then to Italy in the Red GTD. ;D