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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: regcheeseman on September 29, 2010, 10:22:41 am
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(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/regcheeseman/girdle003.jpg)
So you get...
6mm girdle
12.9 grade UNBRAKO main cap bolts and washers
Spacers
Topran rubber sump gasket
Stainless sump pan bolts
The laser cut girdle (slightly different to pictured) fits 1.6 and 1.9 8V motors.
This second batch cost me quite a bit more, he says the initial batch were priced wrong ::)
They will be £97 including postage for the UK and £127 fedexed to the USA, please ask about other destinations.
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Sure, in the UK shipped...AND after I have mine all together lol.
Looks like great work. Great job on this. The spacers is what I was stalling on mine and why ultimately it doesn't have one. Awesome deal.
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As far as I know these will not work on a 1.6 unless you have another spacer for the oil pan bolts. I have a girdle like shown, but I tried fitting it with no such luck. Once on the main caps, you need a spacer between the block and the girdle. Or at least on Canadian 1.6 TD's. I don't see an extra spacer.
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I'd love to see some pictures of this installed, great work here for sure!
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As far as I know these will not work on a 1.6 unless you have another spacer for the oil pan bolts. I have a girdle like shown, but I tried fitting it with no such luck. Once on the main caps, you need a spacer between the block and the girdle. Or at least on Canadian 1.6 TD's. I don't see an extra spacer.
Look at the picture again, read his post again too ;)
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Got a picture of this mounted? Price incl. shipping to Norway?
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me want
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As far as I know these will not work on a 1.6 unless you have another spacer for the oil pan bolts.
Dunno what you are on about ??? you can't fit the standard oil pan bolts back in anyway as they are now 6mm too short.
The main cap spacer are easy once you have the girdle sorted.
Anyway, here you go.....
Fits!
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/regcheeseman/P1020603.jpg)
This is the prototype, hence the adjusted dipstick hole.
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pm sent
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so this is totally bolt on no machining or anything?
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Dunno what you are on about
I think I know now, the sump pan is going to be close to them main bearing cap bolts, I've gotta find my sump pan and try it
so this is totally bolt on no machining or anything?
Yep. The only hassles were undoing the end four main bearing cap bolts and working out the assembly sequence so that it fits together.
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I've gotta find my sump pan and try it
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/regcheeseman/P1020613.jpg)
Yep - nice snug fit. :)
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bit of a newb when it comes to these engines but why the need for a crank girdle? is there some sort of weakness/fault ive not heard of or are you running with high torque levels?
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Yes the engines have a weakness in the fact they don't like VNT turbos throwing 30+ psi at them ;)
The girdle is a fairly advanced level of tuning, not really applicable to fairly standard tune-ups.
I'll (hopefully) be running hybrid pump, VNT turbo, MLS gasket, twin plenum inlet, port matched head. 150hp target. ;D
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Are you just running the oil pan bolts clear through the oil pan, gasket, and girdle? Also, are you running 2 gaskets or just one? Dipstick would have to be marked to the new thickness of the girdle too correct?
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Are you just running the oil pan bolts clear through the oil pan, gasket, and girdle?
Yes I am.
Also, are you running 2 gaskets or just one?
One gasket and a smear of loctite between block/girdle
Dipstick would have to be marked to the new thickness of the girdle too correct?
No it wouldn't, the dipstick mark is referenced to the oil pick up/engine bottom end. The quantity of oil required to fill the engine from bone dry will have increased - by maybe 1/2 pint????
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bit of a newb when it comes to these engines but why the need for a crank girdle? is there some sort of weakness/fault ive not heard of or are you running with high torque levels?
Yes the engines have a weakness in the fact they don't like VNT turbos throwing 30+ psi at them ;)
The girdle is a fairly advanced level of tuning, not really applicable to fairly standard tune-ups.
I'll (hopefully) be running hybrid pump, VNT turbo, MLS gasket, twin plenum inlet, port matched head. 150hp target. ;D
Who has broke 1,6 or 1,9 becouse of it didn“t have girdle? Hands up? Zero hands up? 150hp will be very happy with stock bottom end.
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I still have the one i bought off ebay for like $400 CAD. I'd like to install it someday. After seeing your pic it looks like it works. I know the oil pan bolts are too short. I'm wondering if the spacers I had were too long. The kit has everything, ARP bolts, spacers and girdle. Can you tell me approx. how long your spacers are? I work at a machine shop and can have new ones made. Do you need to drill new oil pan holes in the block, or can you use the old ones, of course, with longer bolts. Any help is appreciated. I plan on the same - going to VNT someday...
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Do you have to grind any of the 'arch' on the main bearing caps to make it fit?
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Who has broke 1,6 or 1,9 becouse of it didn“t have girdle? Hands up? Zero hands up? 150hp will be very happy with stock bottom end.
Thanks for that. ::) How many run a high power VNT on here without a girdle? I'll fit one for peace of mind, you don't have to.
I still have the one i bought off ebay for like $400 CAD. I'd like to install it someday. After seeing your pic it looks like it works. I know the oil pan bolts are too short. I'm wondering if the spacers I had were too long. The kit has everything, ARP bolts, spacers and girdle. Can you tell me approx. how long your spacers are? I work at a machine shop and can have new ones made. Do you need to drill new oil pan holes in the block, or can you use the old ones, of course, with longer bolts. Any help is appreciated. I plan on the same - going to VNT someday...
Spacers 11mm ID, 20mm OD and 12.0 mm length. (this is for a 1.6 SB block)
No holes to drill.
Do you have to grind any of the 'arch' on the main bearing caps to make it fit?
No - no machining at all, just bolt it up
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Who has broke 1,6 or 1,9 becouse of it didn“t have girdle? Hands up? Zero hands up? 150hp will be very happy with stock bottom end.
Thanks for that. ::) How many run a high power VNT on here without a girdle? I'll fit one for peace of mind, you don't have to.
I have ran for tens of thousands kilometres (1,6 170hp). But i dont count that as a high power engine. I had girdle in my before engine, it still threw a rod through block (230hp). Both with vnt. You WILL break stock rods WAY before, its even easier with vnt ::)
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then there are people that say the stock rods are fine....and those that run the original head gasket with 20+ psi and no problems....
what rods did you use and what inlet?
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Stock rods are fine with that power level, just like stock bottom end without girdle. But huge low end torque will kill rods.
Oh yes, that 1,6 ran mostly with stock fiber gasket and stock bolts. ;D Had no problems with those, but updated to metal gasket and arp's becouse everyone was telling it cannot work. But it did.
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Did you get the next batch of girdles made up yet?
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One left at this price if you want it?
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I will take it!!!
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I got the payment, one problem, you are in the US.
They are £83 in the UK! Would you like me to get a price for shipping?
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Yeah, let me know how much the shipping will be.