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General Information => Upgrades (non engine related ) => Topic started by: smutts on March 22, 2013, 10:35:11 am

Title: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: smutts on March 22, 2013, 10:35:11 am
Can anybody help me?
Usual problem, car has the standard Mk2 Golf, urinating lady dog stance.
Who knows which standard springs are a bit stiffer but fit easily, would early Mk3 Golf be a good fit?, assuming the springs are stiffer, as the Mk3 was a lot heavier.
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on March 28, 2013, 01:57:35 am
Can anybody help me?
Usual problem, car has the standard Mk2 Golf, urinating lady dog stance.
Who knows which standard springs are a bit stiffer but fit easily, would early Mk3 Golf be a good fit?, assuming the springs are stiffer, as the Mk3 was a lot heavier.

mk3 jetta had the stiffest springs..

i just lower the rest of the car to match the back :-p
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on March 28, 2013, 03:09:26 am
Coil boosters in between the coils ;) $10 fix lol.
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: bbob203 on March 28, 2013, 09:42:28 am
have had this setup going for 18 or so months continuously running 500-600 lbs in the trunk with no issues.

http://www.vwdieselparts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10837&hilit=Lift+kit
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: smutts on March 28, 2013, 06:55:00 pm
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have had this setup going for 18 or so months continuously running 500-600 lbs in the trunk with no issues.

bbob, that is a dead crafty method there, but was it only bilstein that had the removeable spring seat? of course I've got boges, with the welded seat. Bugger............. :( But that is a good idea!


Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: bbob203 on March 28, 2013, 08:00:31 pm
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have had this setup going for 18 or so months continuously running 500-600 lbs in the trunk with no issues.

bbob, that is a dead crafty method there, but it was only bilsteins that had the removeable spring seat, of course I've got sachs, with the welded seat. Bugger............. :( But that is a good idea!




Ive also heard hockey pucks work good to between spring and spring seat.
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: ORCoaster on March 28, 2013, 10:23:37 pm
Been running with the exhaust clamps and cut coupler for nearly better than a year now.  If I had cut the coupler a bit I wouldn't have needed to go this route for the install. 


(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j475/Orcoaster/Paint%20and%20custom%20work/LiftingRearEnd10.jpg)


I have an 11 gallon tank in the back for veggie oil or really cheap diesel. So I was looking for a bigger than normal lift.  Not so sure I needed it that high.  Maybe 3/4 of a coupler instead of a full one.  Guy might get by with one cut in half. 
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: bbob203 on March 28, 2013, 10:37:13 pm
Yes I'm gonna cut mine down a smidge when I do the rear struts.
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: burn_your_money on March 29, 2013, 10:47:51 am
Ive also heard hockey pucks work good to between spring and spring seat.

I've had these in a Golf for about 3 years now. It works great and is super easy.
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on March 29, 2013, 10:35:49 pm
How does one go about adding the hockey puck? Cut it out to fit the seat?
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: ORCoaster on March 29, 2013, 11:17:04 pm
Or would you drill the center and just put it between the top of the shock and the body of the car?  Haven't seen that one yet.  Anyone have pictures?  Links?
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: burn_your_money on March 30, 2013, 10:57:49 pm
You use a hole saw that is the same diameter of the shock. Drill a hole in the center of the hockey puck. Remove spring from shock. Slide hockey puck onto shock, put spring back on and away you go. You may or may not need a spring compressor to get it back together. This does not work on mk1s. Only mk2 and mk3.
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on March 30, 2013, 11:26:53 pm
What is different about the different gens that it won't work on the mk1?

I thought you could use mk2 springs on the mk1 shocks.. So what changes?
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: JamesT on March 31, 2013, 04:09:40 am
I've used B3 wagon rear springs in a MK3 to give it some lift. I could haul over 200kg of tools and crap in the back without an issue. It just got a little bouncy if I didn't have a load in it. For the front, I made custom top-hats for the struts that added 1.5" of lift.
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: burn_your_money on April 02, 2013, 11:20:31 pm
8v-of-fury: MK1 springs don't get small at the bottom to go tight around the bottom of the shock.

See the above picture posted by ORCoaster
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: smutts on April 03, 2013, 11:28:13 am
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Ive also heard hockey pucks work good to between spring and spring seat.
I'm about 2000 miles from the nearest ice hockey puck ;),
but still curious if the early mk3 springs are stiffer and a plug and play in a mk2.
My suspicions are that the rear springs are so soft to keep both wheels on the tarmac if you lift off the throttle (gas pedal) whilst flying through a tight bend. Old Peugeot Gti could be bit of a *** in that situation.  :o
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: burn_your_money on April 03, 2013, 04:18:06 pm
Yes mk2 and mk3 rear springs just swap in. I used VR6 mk3 springs with the hockey puck in my 91 Golf. I went through strut mounts pretty quick and it was terrible to drive when I wasn't loaded, but I could haul a complete TD in the hatch without bottoming out. B3 is the same. I've heard B3 wagons are the stiffest. I'd assume B4 is the same but I'm not 100% on that.
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: smutts on April 06, 2013, 04:13:34 pm
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Yes mk2 and mk3 rear springs just swap in

Hi Ho! Hi Ho! Off to the scrapyard I go!

Thanks for your time and help. I will let you know how I get on. ;D
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: smutts on August 30, 2013, 11:10:44 am
The backside down stance was due to collapsed and rusted to dust "OEM"  ::)(my arse!) spring hats fitted 5 years ago. So in went the twenty year old VW items (which still look almost new!) from the mk3 struts from the scrapyard . There is a lot of utter sh1te being sold out there, so take anything which claims to be of an OEM standard with scepticism. The rotted ones had VW part numbers stamped on them, which fooled me at the time.

   Mk3 rear suspenion fits fine, but the Mk3 Gti stuff has shorter springs, about 340mm long. My springs on the Mk2 are 350mm which I presume is standard.
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on October 20, 2013, 04:10:05 pm
The backside down stance was due to collapsed and rusted to dust "OEM"  ::)(my arse!) spring hats fitted 5 years ago. So in went the twenty year old VW items (which still look almost new!) from the mk3 struts from the scrapyard . There is a lot of utter sh1te being sold out there, so take anything which claims to be of an OEM standard with scepticism. The rotted ones had VW part numbers stamped on them, which fooled me at the time.

   Mk3 rear suspenion fits fine, but the Mk3 Gti stuff has shorter springs, about 340mm long. My springs on the Mk2 are 350mm which I presume is standard.

350mm soft spring VS. 340mm stiff spring..

i bet the mk3 springs compress LESS, and i bet the installed height is the same, or a C#NT hair taller...

ive always took and installed Jetta GLI springs on all my Golfs/GTIs
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: RabbitJockey on October 21, 2013, 07:37:30 am
The backside down stance was due to collapsed and rusted to dust "OEM"  ::)(my arse!) spring hats fitted 5 years ago. So in went the twenty year old VW items (which still look almost new!) from the mk3 struts from the scrapyard . There is a lot of utter sh1te being sold out there, so take anything which claims to be of an OEM standard with scepticism. The rotted ones had VW part numbers stamped on them, which fooled me at the time.

   Mk3 rear suspenion fits fine, but the Mk3 Gti stuff has shorter springs, about 340mm long. My springs on the Mk2 are 350mm which I presume is standard.

350mm soft spring VS. 340mm stiff spring..

i bet the mk3 springs compress LESS, and i bet the installed height is the same, or a C#NT hair taller...

ive always took and installed Jetta GLI springs on all my Golfs/GTIs

who is this guy  ;D
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: ORCoaster on October 21, 2013, 07:19:13 pm
It's near Halloween and the dead are rising.  Surely you know this guy!  Follow the I'm back thread.  Long time member that pulled a disappear on us lately.  
Title: Re: Mk2 Golf, rear springs.
Post by: smutts on November 01, 2013, 04:43:03 pm
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who is this guy  Grin

I hav'nae a scoobie! ;)