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For Sale/Looking For => Parts for Sale/Wanted => Topic started by: DA-BRT on February 28, 2008, 04:02:46 am
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Hello,
I bought a couple of mechanical pumps. I only need 1 for my Polo 6N 1997.
These things needs to be changed to use on a VW TDI engine:
The original trottle cable, injection lines, and pump mounting bracket can be used.
I sell the rebuild ones for €1100 and the new ones for €1400 included sending them all around the world.
(http://www.zwalve.eu/d/1632-2/CvM_Definitieve-pomp_080206_001.JPG)
(http://www.zwalve.eu/d/1636-2/CvM_Definitieve-pomp_080206_002.JPG)
(http://www.zwalve.eu/d/1639-2/CvM_Definitieve-pomp_080206_003.JPG)
Above pictures from the stock pump.
(http://www.zwalve.eu/d/2205-2/Bracket.jpg)
Designed for the M-TDI pump a new bracket.
(http://www.zwalve.eu/d/1651-2/CvM_Definitieve-pomp_080206_007.JPG)
1600/1900 Trottle cable holder.
One of the pumps installed on my Polo 6N with 1.9TDI AFN engine.
(http://www.zwalve.eu/d/2192-2/21012009007.jpg)
(http://www.zwalve.eu/d/2195-2/21012009008.jpg)
More information pb or email ([email protected])
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I think you might have a problem selling a pump, even if it can be used as a m-tdi pump for $1600 US dollars.
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It might be. I think it's not my fault that the Euro is this strong at the moment. :lol: But selling it on the other side may be more difficult.
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so these are factory m-TDI pumps? if brand new that price seems somewhat reasonable... considering the cost of obtaining an m-TDI pump that actually works good.
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Yes these are the factory M-TDI pumps.
They got a big advanced timing, good caged govenor, normal trottle leaver, agressive LDA pin.
The pumps are from 1999 and 2000 and 2 have been revised in 2007 and 2005.
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Do you still have these available?
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Yes got 3 pieces at stock at the moment.
I need a little time to change the mounting supports and exchange the govenor spring for a stronger one.
Greetings
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FWIW, I have two of these, one currently running with super results on my Vanagon Syncro camper with .216 injectors and larger turbo. Amazing power, and really is a bolt-on. There is no need to change the governor spring unless you desire more than 4000 rpm. The second pump I dissected to compare what the 'factory' (in this case not VW but Bosch and MWM of Brazil, as the pumps are made in Brazil) did internally versus the 4BT pumps I have been using and building. The amazing thing is there are very minor differences. I will be incorporating these differences into the 4BT pumps I build from here on. But it proves to me that we were already oh-so-close to having the 4BT exactly as needed for max power.
Karl
www.westyventures.com
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Karl,
that is good to hear.
Joe
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@Karl: Strange about the govenor spring. A lot of my customers complain about the max RPM. That's why i had special springs made for me.
Got now 3 different types. On the test bench I gave me the following results. Fuel cut around 4400RPM, 4750RPM and 5100RPM. When I'm sending them out I and there are no questions asked I place the 4400RPM spring and on special request the stronger ones. (I realy like the uncaged covernor.)
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makes me wonder how it would perform in a automobile application. I know a lot of Karls pump have been used on vanagon applications where the "uncaged" gov. def. would have its benefits...
DA BRT...have you run "uncaged" in a sedan/car or the like? I just wonder what it is like smoothness wise, etc. through shifting, etc. as the gov is def. setup for more of a "weighted" application like the vans...
Its nice to see that you are providing spring options as well.
Joe
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What I found out about the uncaged govenor compared to the convention caged one. That the uncaged one is giving a little less fuel at lower RPM and in the top RPM areas more.
But I will double check it when I finished building a caged version with the right ratios (length) to the trottle leaver arm.
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just for info, there exist caged governor spring with only one spring in it, I guess the same result than a uncaged spring with the same rate.
Scuse for the hijack.
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@Tintin: Your input is always welcome!
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cani get an update? how many pumps do you still have? how much would one and "uncaged" one be shipped to the US ? i am doing my reserch to build an m-tdi as we speak :D
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Hi,
Sorry for my late responding. I was in China for my work a couple of weeks.
At the moment there are 4 new pumps and a couple of used ones. (have to rebuild them)
I don't understand your sentence about caged and uncaged. Are you talking about the covenor?
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@Karl: Strange about the govenor spring. A lot of my customers complain about the max RPM. That's why i had special springs made for me.
Got now 3 different types. On the test bench I gave me the following results. Fuel cut around 4400RPM, 4750RPM and 5100RPM. When I'm sending them out I and there are no questions asked I place the 4400RPM spring and on special request the stronger ones. (I realy like the uncaged covernor.)
I don't like to rev the 12mm higher than the 4000-4200 it will go with the stock spring. But yes, changing the gov spring for more rpm's, that works. There are some crazies that think they need more rpm....
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Stil got a used spare modified pump for sale.
I also bought 2 new pumps that I'm going to modify as soon as I got a buyer. I sell them for €1400 including the sending all over the world. (Got Paypal)
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i might be interested in one can you pls give me the Bosch
part # so i can compare parts.
0 460 424 ???
thanks
Giles
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I've got new unmodified pumps...
http://www.advancedautomotion.com/product_info.php?cPath=66_132&products_id=109 (http://www.advancedautomotion.com/product_info.php?cPath=66_132&products_id=109)
for $1500....
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I'm working on a Brasilian factory pump with al my modifications done by Bosch. It seems that it's not going to be a problem to sell new pumps in the nearby future for 1100 euro's with all the modifications made by the factory. They have got a special pump number: 0 460 424 AEZ .... haha funny. I like it.
Changed the internal pump pressure and the advanced timing mechanism. The supports, max. rpm and the LDA.
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Why do you picture an obviously used one if they are new?
We initially sold used pumps and the picture was never updated until now. Thanks for making note of it.