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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: truckinwagen on February 17, 2010, 04:54:26 pm

Title: vac pump base seal?
Post by: truckinwagen on February 17, 2010, 04:54:26 pm
is there a gasket or an oring that is supposed to be on the base of the vac pump?

I never noticed if there was, and I think I am leaking oil from where the vac pump goes into the block.

anyone know?

-Owen
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: burn_your_money on February 17, 2010, 04:58:04 pm
Yes there is an o-ring. Should be the same as a distributor o-ring if you can't find one.
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: truckinwagen on February 17, 2010, 04:59:58 pm
I will rummage around in my complete motor seal kit, might be in there with the rest of the unused/redundant bits.

thanks,

-Owen
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: GEE-BEE on February 17, 2010, 09:03:39 pm
On aaz there is a green viton on the shaft
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: jseeley on February 17, 2010, 10:07:59 pm
mines got nothing there and IS leaky... I have a distributor seal on order... does it matter if you have the vane or rotary pump?
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: burn_your_money on February 17, 2010, 10:24:10 pm
does it matter if you have the vane or rotary pump?

I wouldn't think so but I've never held the diaphragm style one in my hands.
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: jseeley on February 18, 2010, 12:37:02 am
does it matter if you have the vane or rotary pump?

I wouldn't think so but I've never held the diaphragm style one in my hands.

Mine is an 85, and has the newer style pump...

(http://www.partsplaceinc.com/catalog/s-16_files/Untitled-1.jpg)

sadly my pump leak is the least of my issues right now...  :P

Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 18, 2010, 01:04:55 am
So it is a confirmed drop in replacement? this is good to know, as I believe my diaphragm took a crap on me.. ;)
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: burn_your_money on February 18, 2010, 07:58:05 am
I think you have to check to make sure that it is still engaging in the oil pump shaft. I think I read that there are different heights.
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: burn_your_money on February 18, 2010, 10:30:31 am
Maybe I didn't put enough emphasis on "should be" when I said they are the same. I'm not 100% sure, just pretty sure.

That's good to know about the one in the bottom.
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on February 18, 2010, 10:45:10 am
Maybe I didn't put enough emphasis on "should be" when I said they are the same. I'm not 100% sure, just pretty sure.

That's good to know about the one in the bottom.

im pretty sure i dropped a gasser dizzy in a diesel block before. 99% for sure they are the same. the 2.0s have a bigger hole in the block tho.
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: burn_your_money on February 18, 2010, 11:17:57 am
Yeah the 2.0 should match the AAZ vac pump
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: fatmobile on February 18, 2010, 11:59:00 pm
Here's the seal Andrew is talking about:
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1323/vpumpsealig4.jpg) (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/vpumpsealig4.jpg/)
 It's usually a hard old black piece that looks like part of the pump. Keeps oil pressure frrom bleeding off.
 Not sure where the best place to buy them is, I get them from the dealership.
 Don't know the part number right off either.

NAPA has an o-ring that fits, can't remember the size, took a vacuum pump in to test fit.
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: fatmobile on February 19, 2010, 12:45:58 pm
Are you sure?
 That doesn't add up.
 10mm difference between inside diameter and outside,
 but only 3mm thickness?
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: rabbitman on February 19, 2010, 12:53:35 pm
The base o-ring should be 36mm ID x 46mm OD x 3mm thickness.

tsk tsk tsk......... :D
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: jseeley on February 22, 2010, 12:51:05 am
So it is a confirmed drop in replacement? this is good to know, as I believe my diaphragm took a crap on me.. ;)

http://www.partsplaceinc.com/products/product-detail.aspx?sku=13743 (http://www.partsplaceinc.com/products/product-detail.aspx?sku=13743)

http://www.germanautoparts.com/Volkswagen/Golf/EngineElectrical/386/1 (http://www.germanautoparts.com/Volkswagen/Golf/EngineElectrical/386/1)
Title: Re: vac pump base seal?
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 22, 2010, 11:16:33 am
Would just like to add, that I did the diaphragm-rotary pump swap. Swaps in, and brakes are better then any other mk1 ive driven.. gas or diesel