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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: dodger21 on February 25, 2011, 08:56:59 pm

Title: Need some engine info
Post by: dodger21 on February 25, 2011, 08:56:59 pm
Looking to replace T-Stat and do an oil change but I need to know how much of each. Thanks!
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: GEE-BEE on February 25, 2011, 09:10:11 pm
Gallon of coolant and a gallon of distilled water, I use G12 type

I get the shell rotella synthetic 5qt at Wallmart

GB
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: mystery3 on February 25, 2011, 09:38:13 pm
Gallon of coolant and a gallon of distilled water, I use G12 type

I get the shell rotella synthetic 5qt at Wallmart

GB
I used to go to walmart/hell to get the 5qt jugs but they now only sell 1g/3.78L jugs and it didn't appear they lowered the price. Now it's just not worth venturing in to the depths of hell on earth/walmart just to buy oil. I've found bmw, saab and vag coolants are all the same and it's the cheapest at the saab dealer if they've one anywhere near you it might be worth it.
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: theman53 on February 25, 2011, 09:42:13 pm
buddy of mine works at advanced...I bring up the oil he says "looks like napa is having a sale and we need to price match" I just smile.
As much as I drive I should have built 2 of these engines and bought a drum of oil
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: Vincent Waldon on February 25, 2011, 09:57:52 pm
Dunno if it was available in 1985...but does your car have power steering?
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: dodger21 on February 25, 2011, 10:51:11 pm
No power steering.  :D

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on February 26, 2011, 12:44:10 am
Dunno if it was available in 1985...but does your car have power steering?

Yes available in 85. My 85 Jetta TDGL is pwr str and its on the window sticker.

A gallon of coolant and gallon of distilled has never been enough in my mk1-mk2 VW's ... but they all have factory A/C. Which usually means a larger radiator capacity. fwiw
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: Vincent Waldon on February 26, 2011, 01:01:13 am
No power steering.  :D

Cool... then t-stat changeover is *much* easier:

- with a catch pan in place remove the two 10mm bolts holding the t-stat housing to the water pump
- pull the housing free
- stand clear of a whoosh of coolant  ;)
- pull out the t-stat
- stand clear of the second whoosh of coolant ;-)
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: Thezorn on February 26, 2011, 04:23:03 am
No power steering.  :D

Thanks guys!

If only everyone was this lucky :P
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: dodger21 on February 26, 2011, 06:36:30 pm
WTH?!?!?!?!

That was one of the WORST thermostat placings ever! Took me 45mins to get it in! But not it doesn't leak around there anymore and the temps don't spike.
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: mystery3 on February 26, 2011, 07:42:18 pm
WTH?!?!?!?!

That was one of the WORST thermostat placings ever! Took me 45mins to get it in! But not it doesn't leak around there anymore and the temps don't spike.

How many vehicles have you had? It's a little bit of an awkward angle but not bad at all compared to a lot of cars out there.
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: nathan_b on February 26, 2011, 08:12:37 pm
try a 1.8t jetta or golf thermostat.. without removing the manifold or the front end that it...
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: dodger21 on February 26, 2011, 08:18:44 pm
1990 F150, 1987 GMC Suburban, 1993 4x4 Cummins, 1997 Saturn SC1, 1995 Ford E350,1993 Ford Crown Vic, 1993 2wd Cummins, 1985 Golf. Except for the Ford E350 and the 4x4, I changed all of the thermostats at one time or another. I only have the Crown Vic and the Golf now. The Vic I have owned the longest at 2 years last month. Body is darn near perfect, with 210k miles on it, 3 owner car that my in-laws bought off of a grandma who drove it 30k miles in 8 years. I got that thing for $10 as they wanted to GIVE it away. They claimed no one would want a 16 year old 180k mile car for $500...  ;D
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: Vincent Waldon on February 26, 2011, 08:47:09 pm
WTH?!?!?!?!

Sorry dude... we have no sympathy... since you didn't have to move the power steering pump out of the way first.   ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: maxfax on February 26, 2011, 10:45:32 pm
1993 Ford Crown Vic

 :'( :'( :'(  I miss my '98 & '93..    But the slightly annoying oil filter makes up for the T-stat..

No sympathy here either..  You haven't lived to you try removing a power steering pump that hasn;t been touched in 20+ years...

Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: coke on February 26, 2011, 10:50:51 pm
Yeah, well how about the power steering pump that looks like it took a bath in the atlantic ocean? I couldn't get the 13mm bolt that goes through the spacer bracket to the other side of the pump to turn at all. Nut rounded off. I had to dig out a dremel and grind it off completely. I swear the vehicle must've been a Katrina car.

It was awful, and to make matters worse someone had stripped one of the thermostat flange bolts so I had to find a way to hold a nut on top and turn a wrench too. Needless to say, its the last thermostat it will see. ;) (Gasser, not a diesel)
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: maxfax on February 26, 2011, 10:54:39 pm
I couldn't get the 13mm bolt that goes through the spacer bracket to the other side of the pump to turn at all. Nut rounded off.

That's the one I was thinking so fondly of..   A nickel's worth of never seize would have gone a long way on that...
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: macka on February 26, 2011, 11:11:39 pm
I couldn't get the 13mm bolt that goes through the spacer bracket to the other side of the pump to turn at all. Nut rounded off.

That's the one I was thinking so fondly of..   A nickel's worth of never seize would have gone a long way on that...

Never sieze, always get used on the accessories bolts and nuts during reassambly. Saves agravation and I don't involuntarily donate blood.
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: theman53 on February 26, 2011, 11:15:11 pm
I use never sieze like most people use silicone gasket maker. I would rather have it up to my elbows than to bust one of the water pump bolts ever again. The GTI I did last summer I broke the Tstat bolts off in the housing. I stole the good housing off of another engine that I had already never siezed up a few years ago. Worked perfect.
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: maxfax on February 26, 2011, 11:23:40 pm
I use never sieze like most people use silicone gasket maker.

Don;t get me started on that..  ::)

It's a darned shame cars are built with roughly a 5 - 10 year lifespan in mind..  I'd be willing to pay a few extra bucks to know they never seized some stuff..
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: theman53 on February 26, 2011, 11:37:30 pm
I use never sieze like most people use silicone gasket maker.

Don;t get me started on that..  ::)

It's a darned shame cars are built with roughly a 5 - 10 year lifespan in mind..  I'd be willing to pay a few extra bucks to know they never seized some stuff..
You know what I mean? When there is 12lbs of silicone on what used to be a valve cover and it is leaking all over the place. Squished in so far that it was probably hitting the cam...yeah that is me only with the nickel anti sieze ;) It will be on the bolt, the head of the bolt, on the shank of the bolt, all up in them threads of the bolt and then I will usually thread the brush onto the nut before assembly.  ;D
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: dodger21 on February 27, 2011, 09:25:56 am
Sorry folks, I was just venting a bit.

Didn't know about the power steering pump being there....

Maxfax, it is easy if you turn the wheels all the way to the right. I can change oil in that thing faster than it takes to put the gas in it.  :o
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on February 27, 2011, 12:10:33 pm
Sorry folks, I was just venting a bit.

Didn't know about the power steering pump being there....

Maxfax, it is easy if you turn the wheels all the way to the right. I can change oil in that thing faster than it takes to put the gas in it.  :o

try replacing a t-stat on a car with a/c and power steering!

im used to a thermo change taking about 15 minutes. ive only owned 2 Volkswagens in my life with power steering, and only 3 with a/c..
Title: Re: Need some engine info
Post by: maxfax on February 28, 2011, 12:56:00 am
Maxfax, it is easy if you turn the wheels all the way to the right. I can change oil in that thing faster than it takes to put the gas in it.  :o

Yes!  Once I figured that out it wasn't so bad..  I was being slow that day I suppose...