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Model Specific Questions and Info => MK1 Golf/Jetta and B1 Dasher => Topic started by: wolf_walker on August 17, 2013, 12:53:30 pm
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So I've never had one, in all these years, and I'd like to try one.
Searching around hasn't found me a list of sizes and what they came on, GTI, Cabriolet, etc, or
what is a good front only bar for a Caddy. I suspect something not to big to keep understeer
down. I don't drive hard but a little less body role is the goal. I'm not screwing with, or paying for, a
rear bar on a Caddy at the moment. Thoughts?
Central California if anyone has one for sale too...
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year? westy bunny/caddy, in either 82 or 83 moved the brake and fuel lines... where are yours? if they run behind the control arem they all need moved... 83-84 were like germans and run them on the other side of te floor suport to open up the area the sway bar goes..
id keep it small likt gti/gli... cabby may be slightly bigger along with rocco.. but i honestly think stock all same... you do not have a rear bar... jettas/cabbies come stock with them, then sportier, gli/wolfsburg got fronts.. aka 1.8 vs 1.7.. and no diesels.. so to put a large front on with no rear.. i would not.. stick to stock..
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Just get one off a GTI or other car that has one, drill 2 holes in each control arm to bolt it on. IIRC, my Caddy was an 82, and I never rerouted anything, and did it on a couple cars.
IMO a lower tie bar is almost as much improvement again. I happened to find a Neuspeed one, but EMT conduit with the ends smashed and drilled works just as well.
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82, I hadn't heard about the brake lines moving, interesting.
I have a hefty piece of angle to attach the forward LCA points together, was thinking about a K bar.
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On my '81 the fuel lines would have interfered. I'd suggest the four-point lower tie bar. Ever make it up to the bay area?
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On my '81 the fuel lines would have interfered. I'd suggest the four-point lower tie bar. Ever make it up to the bay area?
Gas/diesel, same?
Not yet, just did an east of LA mountains camping trip, trying to recover now.
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if you got angle.. same as k bar...
i knew 81 they in way.. just not sure on if they moved them in 82 or 83 on the westy bunny... but look at them.. then decide.. if in the way.. i doubt it is worth the effort.. if not.. go for it.. but i hear of lots removing fronts for better steering..
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I agree the lower 4-point is the best thing to add to the front-end.
(http://www.garretti.com/savage/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/es-lower1.jpg)
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I could do that, is it really going to improve my casual-cornering feel though?
I've had good luck with chassis braces on BMW's and older Volvo's but I tended to
drive them harder.
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Any cornering stresses the horrible mk1 platform and its horrible chassis design. LOL, plain and simple.
My brothers car and mine have had identical suspension at one point in time, and his had an upper strut bar as well as the loiwer K.. WAY better for all types of driving.
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Well the last half million miles haven't been all that horrible, but it'd be nice if she'd sway a little less in corners.
I've had stiffer springs and shocks in the past and lower profile tires that accomplished just that, but this setup
currently actually rides pretty well so I'm loathe to change it. But relatively subtle curves introduce a predictable,
but what I'd call objectonable, bit of body roll. I'll stick my L channel between the LCA forward mounts and see if I can
find a sway bar I guess.
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I have an 82 rabbit diesel pickup that rolled a lot with a load in the back. I lifted it 2 inches so my center of gravity is higher. Because of that, I decided to put a bar on the front to see if it made much difference with roll. I found a front sway bar on a Cabrolet at my local wrecking yard. All I had to do was to drill out a hole in each control arm as previously stated. It made a huge difference with roll and its probably the easiest mod with a return in performance. I didn't think it would do much since the bar is so small, compared to other bars on different vehicles I've used, but I was very happy with the results.
Don't forget to get the rear control arm brackets for the bar. My brackets had just enough room that I could leave the steel lines where they were. There was barely enough space/room to bolt them on without modification.
Love the results.
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Yeah... 5 months of driving once every two weeks later and I still haven't gotten to it. Or the chassis brace I made last year, or the motor mounts.
I can't remember last time I filled the tank up. Kinda sad.
What I really want, is a Scirocco body to put this motor in.
Or another W114/115 Mercedes.
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I have an 82 rabbit diesel pickup that rolled a lot with a load in the back. I lifted it 2 inches so my center of gravity is higher. Because of that,
Get a bit of square tube, and space your rear bumpstops 2-3 inches down from the frame. Helped a lot with the 30 gal tank in my caddy. Yeah, it went far between fillups.
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Well I finally bought a cabby sway bar with the hardware from a fellow, and a scirocco lower K bar and some sort of upper strut bar.
We'll see how that feels, Addco seems to still have a rear bar but I'm going to drive it some first and see whats what.
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Nice! Let us know how it goes and what you think of the "K" bar too.
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Yeah it only took me like, a year to get to it.
I suspect what I'm going to find is I need something other than stock 13" alloys and tall squishy tires shortly after I get this stuff on.
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LOL, yes i can relate.
I've noticed that one thing always leads to another on our Caddys. Redoing my head lead me to other stuff on the motor so I thought why not just rebuild it? So I did that. Then I started some other stuff like replacing my rear license plate tag lights, then sway bar after doing a 2 inch lift, added air shocks to the rear and then an extra leaf. The hardest mod so far was finding speakers to fit the dash on each side as mine were ripped in the cones. I need to do the headliner. And now, I've been looking at mini cooper wheels. Sounds like I need to go to a Caddyanonymous group or something!
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So I'm assuming when one drills the lower control arms to mount the forward ends of the bar, it's marked with the suspension at ride height?
I somehow manage to have the only new set of LCA's in existence that are not drilled apparently. Of course.
Even autotechs instructions for the big bar they sell just say drill it with no specifics.
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Yes, that's what I did since my LCA's had no holes in them in my Rabbit pickup. I installed my bar to locate the hole areas and used a sharpie to draw where the ends were and drilled accordingly (with them in the car). You can be off a little because of the way they mount. Its not a precision deal-breaker either.
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Cool deal. Think I'm gonna have to rebuild my downpipe too lol.
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Well, finally, I can say that on an 82 diesel LX Caddy, the drivers side bracket just does clear the brake lines(assuming I have brakes still)
and the passenger side fuel and vent lines are a holy mother to move. There is no amount of handling improvement in this ***ing
truck that could be worth that aggravation without a lift to work on.
I left one tucked down in it's original spot and moved the other back to a clear spot under/behind the upper part of the sway bar bushing
case. Still needs a little tweaking but it'll require more hands than I have at the moment. That fuel line is tuff. In retrospect I think I should have just
cut them and ran softlines there. I'm going to go drink a lot now.
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Four point here, added the vw pan oil guard..
low low low
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