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Reply #30April 10, 2010, 09:56:43 pm

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2010, 09:56:43 pm »
Like I said, it's stock AEF setup. Water pump housing is same casting than alternator and ps pump brackets. Water pump is same than longitudal TDI. Actually, pump housing casting is same.
On negative side, 2 bolts are located different and earlier blocks doesn't have those. AEF is 1,9 na from Polo, Caddy, Skoda Felicia etc, mid to late 90s. TDIs from Audi A4/A6 and Passat 3B.
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'86 Audi 80q 1,9TDic
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Reply #31April 11, 2010, 08:50:55 am

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2010, 08:50:55 am »
If factory installed it like that, maybe it is designed to spin counter-clockwise. ::) Pump 028121004 and housing 028903141AP
'74 VW Scirocco TD
'86 Audi 80q 1,9TDic
'01 Audi A6q 2,5TDI

Reply #32April 21, 2010, 10:27:17 am

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2010, 10:27:17 am »
Sorry for taking so long, have been fighting with my dailydriver ::) But now back to 1,9 project.



Pump housing bolts to red circles. Blue is what usually is the second upper bolt, in this case it's pilot bushing hole. Picture is from AEF block, Audi A4 TDI is same kind.
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Reply #33May 05, 2010, 10:14:23 pm

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2010, 10:14:23 pm »
Too dumb to search and actually find something. I need to know how to aquire the pieces for the abf or afn setup. I need that write up that was posted about long ago. I want A/C, so let me know guys how to do this.

Reply #34May 06, 2010, 07:12:29 am

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2010, 07:12:29 am »
Really. Those should be easier to find. I will start looking. That writeup still would be nice from last page.

Found the crank pulley fairly reasonable on autohaus. Is the dealer the only place in US that you can get the bracket and water pump pulley?
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Reply #35May 06, 2010, 11:02:33 am

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #35 on: May 06, 2010, 11:02:33 am »
I think you can also use a VR6 water pump pulley, should be the same.

Brendan
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Reply #36May 06, 2010, 12:56:09 pm

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2010, 12:56:09 pm »
I've heard that the VR6 one is the same, and my brother had it on his AAZ (non AC) but I sold the pulley to a local and he said it didn't work and returned it. He said it hit something. He went to the dealer and bought the AAZ pulley and it fit. I'm still confused on how that worked.
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Reply #37May 06, 2010, 05:37:19 pm

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2010, 05:37:19 pm »
no power steering.

Reply #38May 06, 2010, 11:21:37 pm

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2010, 11:21:37 pm »
So import 2 pumps from finland. One to use and one for spare. Then the aaz brackets and water pump pulleys? Sounds like fun.

Reply #39May 07, 2010, 09:15:47 am

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2010, 09:15:47 am »
I can deal with one V-belt instead of like, 90.

The Mk3 ABA's had a serp + v-belt too, but I thought the V-belt ran the power steering on those.  Don't remember now.

Brendan
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Reply #40August 18, 2010, 08:00:34 pm

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2010, 08:00:34 pm »
i am a little confused.

i'm running a car with no power steering, but it currently has a/c.
i'm fine with ditching the a/c, but i don't want to make things extremely difficult for myself.


i've read through the thread a few times now, but i'm not sure which route to take for the serp setup.

should i be looking for an aaz bracket setup, including the alternator?

Reply #41August 18, 2010, 10:46:58 pm

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2010, 10:46:58 pm »
It sounds like what you want is exactly what ashleyroe has. Check her posts again and you should have your answers.

Reply #42August 19, 2010, 10:58:14 am

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2010, 10:58:14 am »
If factory installed it like that, maybe it is designed to spin counter-clockwise. ::) Pump 028121004 and housing 028903141AP

Do you know the part number for the double sided serpentine belt for this setup?  I am able to locate both of these part numbers in ETKA and get a price of $70.50 for the pump and $109.50 for the housing.  Do you know if the pump housing will mate up to the 1.6L TD block?
Greg

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Reply #43December 14, 2010, 01:09:28 am

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2010, 01:09:28 am »
I  have performed the serpentine swap on my 1987 golf and am very satisfied. No more shredded veebelts lol

Reply #44February 15, 2012, 02:58:35 am

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Re: Serp setup on a 1.6
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2012, 02:58:35 am »
Will the serp bracket from the 1Z / AHU work for this mod?
1985 jetta TD. It was free, and it shows. Down and dirty engine refresh made it run fairly well.... No leaks, except water into the cabin!

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