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Reply #15July 12, 2007, 12:33:15 pm

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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2007, 12:33:15 pm »
This is a pump I came very close to buying for only £100.
The engine is a Mercedes one, as the van is the same as a Sprinter. Its a 2 inlet port/1 exhaust port per cylinder x-flow. Its RWD too, so unlikely that the FWD bellhousing will mate up to it.
I tried a couple of years ago to find out about fitting in a Mk3, but the research basically found i'd have a lot of trouble with it.

Reply #16July 16, 2007, 06:45:11 pm

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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2007, 06:45:11 pm »
Quote from: "aidan"
This is a pump I came very close to buying for only £100.
The engine is a Mercedes one, as the van is the same as a Sprinter. Its a 2 inlet port/1 exhaust port per cylinder x-flow. Its RWD too, so unlikely that the FWD bellhousing will mate up to it.
I tried a couple of years ago to find out about fitting in a Mk3, but the research basically found i'd have a lot of trouble with it.


Oh man a cross flow head too :twisted:  I can't find any info on these things :evil:

Reply #17July 23, 2007, 12:20:07 am

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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2007, 12:20:07 am »
I have one of those vw 12mm factory pumps..new on the shelf.  My friend in germany picked it up for me.  It's off a 2.8L LT..the engine is actually a mercedes 4-cylinder.  If I have time I'll dig it out and get the Bosch part #.  I does not have a mechanical cold start advance.

I have a 11mm Ducato pump on my M-tdi..and it's the same thing, no mechanical cold start advance.  I was worried it wouldn't start in the cold...but it fires right up in winter 10-20F outside.  You just have to give it a little more fuel to increase the idle..but those damn tdi's are amazing in the cold.  Out of curiousity I started mine up in the low 40's without any glowplugs...fired right up.  Try and do that with an IDI VW diesel engine...not happenning.  

I also have the 02A clutch conversion parts..with the manually adjusted clutch cable which are no longer available from vw...only the self adjusting ones.

Reply #18October 09, 2007, 02:12:28 pm

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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2007, 02:12:28 pm »
i picked up four 12mm pump heads from some cat skid steer engines I found at the scrap metal yard here in NC.....they are direct injection diesels so I pulled the cam plate also....they are not bosch but denso under license from bosch.....I'm going to put one on my peugeot pump I got from the UK....well see how it works in my 94' yota tdi M.....

Reply #19December 18, 2007, 07:47:09 pm

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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2007, 07:47:09 pm »
YOU CHAPS IN THE STATES SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THESE PUMPS EASY THEY ARE MADE IN BRAZIL  AND THE ENGINE IS MANUFACTURED BY MWM NOT VW THEY PUT IT IN ALSORTS IN SOUTH AMERICA ANYTHING GM, AND IS CALLED THE MWM SERIES SPRINT 4.07 THEY ALSO DO A 4.2L 6 POT ENGINE THE 6.07, IF YOU LOOK ON YOU TUBE THERE IS ONE WITH OVER 400HP

Reply #20December 23, 2007, 09:21:42 am

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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2007, 09:21:42 am »
So the engine in this eurovan was actually a mercedes diesel?  

my question is why do people say they are a bolt onto a tdi for a mechanical injection swap???? I would imagine that if the engine is from a different manufacturer that it would not be bolt on...

Reply #21December 23, 2007, 09:47:07 am

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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2007, 09:47:07 am »
Its NOT a Eurovan engine!
It's a LT engine, LT is the next size of van up from a Eurovan (or T4 as it is known)

VW and Merc built a van together, they shared some engines, some had Merc engines, some have VW engines.

The Engine in questions is actually a Merc engine and not a VW engine.

So, you are looking for Mercedes Sprinters.



VW LT models



Or, now I only found this while looking for Sprinter pictures but it seems it was also a Dodge Sprinter... probably to do with Merc's Crysler connections..



From ETKA, you are looking for
AGK - VW LT 7/97 > 12/98 - 92kw 128ps
ATA - VW LT 01/99 > 01/02 - 96kw 130ps

VW part number is
062 130 107 and 062 130 107a for the ATA, the ATA appears to have a built in immobiliser, which if it's anything like contemporary VW's it will be dead easy to get past.

There are also the following engines fitted, but these are common rail.
AUH - VW LT 02/02 >> 116kw - 158ps
BCQ - VW LT - 05/02>> 116kw - 158ps

Reply #22December 28, 2007, 01:35:25 am

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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2007, 01:35:25 am »
HELLO............    THE ENGINE IS MANUFACTURED BY MWM IN BRASIL IT IS NOT A MERCEDES ENGINE

Reply #23December 28, 2007, 09:27:43 am

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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2007, 09:27:43 am »
Can inport what is this engine, It's probably to big to fit on a MK1-2-3, but the interesting thing is the pump.

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Reply #25January 01, 2008, 11:36:42 pm

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« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2008, 11:36:42 pm »
I've been following this thread a while and just simply asked an aunt who was travelling in Zlin, Czech Republic if her cousin could find me one of these pumps.There's a Bosch dealer right in town and they ordered me one, shipped from Germany.It was a little steep $2500.00 for a rebuilt one ,$4500.00 for a new one.I gave them the exact part # and that's what I got. She brought it right through customs in her luggage.She's 82, god bless her.
 Forgive me as this is my first pic upload. Czech it out!
'91 180k Audi 80Q mTDI DD AHU, K14, LT pump,
http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?t=45645
'99 Jetta TDI 204k '02 engine, RC3+E, 11mm IP, .216, Racepipe, 2.5''SS exhaust, PD Lift pump,  Boostvalve, PanzerPlate, boost gauge, MAF delete.
'89 Audi 80Q ...waiting
'85 BMW R80

Reply #26January 02, 2008, 05:35:53 am

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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2008, 05:35:53 am »
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Czech it out!
:lol:
Make sure your Aunt gets first ride in the mTDI :wink:
$2500.00 is quite a plunge, please keep us posted on how it works out on your TDI.

Reply #27January 02, 2008, 10:06:24 am

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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2008, 10:06:24 am »
I hope for you that is not a 450$ US china pump, the pump housing is very shinny,  hummm...

The relief on the pump head are common for a china head, Bosch did not have.

Reply #28January 02, 2008, 11:52:11 pm

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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2008, 11:52:11 pm »
That was the first thing I had to promise her!  It's shiny because it's covered with oil and my flash made the whole thing glow.  Before I bought it , I spoke with the technician at the Bosch factory in Berlin (through a translator) who explained to me this pump probably came off a fleet  truck  from the north of Germany (Hamburg).  All their pumps are rebuilt at the Berlin factory . The warranty is in German as is all the packing and packaging. Is there any other way of determining the origin?
'91 180k Audi 80Q mTDI DD AHU, K14, LT pump,
http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?t=45645
'99 Jetta TDI 204k '02 engine, RC3+E, 11mm IP, .216, Racepipe, 2.5''SS exhaust, PD Lift pump,  Boostvalve, PanzerPlate, boost gauge, MAF delete.
'89 Audi 80Q ...waiting
'85 BMW R80

Reply #29January 03, 2008, 12:24:09 am

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« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2008, 12:24:09 am »
no the china one are almost identical to bosch.....

I'm sure you have a real bosch  :wink:

My next set-up will be another M-TDI, i already have the engine here, if you can have another of this pump, I would be really interested.

 

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