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Reply #75July 24, 2007, 03:57:12 pm

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« Reply #75 on: July 24, 2007, 03:57:12 pm »
Hey there this is Frank the guy with the DZSL SLC (Corrado TDI) that was great run you had against me where you nailed your dial in. I plan to play with mysetup and see if I can squeeze a few more tenths out of her and get a 14.9

Reply #76July 24, 2007, 09:53:25 pm

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« Reply #76 on: July 24, 2007, 09:53:25 pm »
dude,your setup is so sweet
wish i had my digital camera so i had some pics to post
guys...this is a very very nice car,and tdi install
heres some pics i snapped tonite
lol,i gotta put green city lights in her jetta,and ill have a traffic light
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this is the merc turbo install... to add insult to injury,,my silicone hoses   arrived yesterday
looks good,even though you cant see the bent valves






Throttle cables ftw

Reply #77July 24, 2007, 10:11:07 pm

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« Reply #77 on: July 24, 2007, 10:11:07 pm »
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man I talked to ya on the phone since.. i didn't hear about the t belt till now?.. mommn whats up wit that?.. ha. .I think you have to go tueb abnd carbon fiber.. go real light get soem lexan windows.. gu tth edoors out toss the rear beam etc it light say 1200 lbs ..soem kinny rear tires and some slicks for the front..etcetc..Tons of things to mess with to get low times outta it.. oh i just finishe dth e220v and th eair compressor install so the garage is set now. .need to rearange it and clean it but  the tig should be buzzing soon hehe..
Later
Deo




andreas+dad say to build a small rail with a tdi
like 6-700 pounds they think itll go 10's,, im sayin 12's

that happened on the way home,deo
yea man,that sucked
i tried to get the timing right on the side of the road. but the pumpwas off a tooth....then the tow truck showed up.....
he towed me to a parking lot,and we got it right
got it goin around 9:45 that night,and was home around 11:30
i didnt take it over 55 the whole way(like 22-2400 rpms)
if my head is scrap,i may need to buy a head from you....
ill buy new guides+valves,and try to find a good head rebuilder locally(maybe aldo's in highland)
if not,ill send it out ,cause somethin like that its sorta like $$ is no object as long as its done right
Throttle cables ftw

Reply #78July 25, 2007, 08:03:45 am

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« Reply #78 on: July 25, 2007, 08:03:45 am »
dude you can just slap valve in it..they are only like7 bucks or so ecah.. that a tbelt/ headgasket set is cheap.. i did valve on my pickup tdi m foro the new owner.. it did the same thing.. Its been running fine since..the tendsioner loosened up.. red loctite solved that.. I just took valves from another tdi head ( maybe my other early one???).. and all was good.. you couldn't even see any marks on the pistons.. infact those valves i changed were for prevention in case it was messed up.. i have em here if you wanna check em on a stand with adial indicator for run out...
       Man I would have come down and towed you back with the trailer .. any time any where.. heck we towed Brains Band and their Van from Virgina home once ha..
 as for a TDI rail ..if you could get teh weight to 600-700 lbs yeah youd be really fast!.. you'd be easylly in the low 11s no problem.. no a rail engine would not be a ve pump thats frop sure.. you'd be doing the 4cly p ump on that sucker with emd injectors, one pice fire rings and staged turbos.. with a auto trans....it could be done.. no rad or very small one custom cam etc etc even home built its $ though .. lightening you car and getting it more extreme is nice.. in fact a drag set up would be nice you don't auto cross any more etc..set up a fibergalss noise.. 6 point cage / structure and gut  the rest.. no beam yous a light trailing arm  with a rv leveling airbag set up and some heim joints ..kinny drag tires..no glass..5 or 4 gallon front mount fuel cell etc if a fiberglass / carbon fiber was used you could get lighter..you'd need to spend soem $ to get mor eengine hp.. fire ring fire ring fire ring.. CAM, BIGGER PUMP, Bigger injectors, Staged Turbo etc notch the pistons etc etc
any how just some ideas..
I have to spilt,
Later
Deo

Reply #79July 26, 2007, 02:15:30 pm

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« Reply #79 on: July 26, 2007, 02:15:30 pm »
Nice times man  :D  Crappy to hear about the belt coming loose, you should put that puppy on the dyno once you get it running again.Good luck

Reply #80July 26, 2007, 09:20:28 pm

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« Reply #80 on: July 26, 2007, 09:20:28 pm »
"frank06" seems to be a reliable source for excellent rebuilt heads on tdiclub.com, prices are good too.  He could do a port for you :D
Waiting for a bigger better diesel to come along.
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Reply #81August 01, 2007, 09:43:53 pm

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« Reply #81 on: August 01, 2007, 09:43:53 pm »
ill haveta maybe try that too,ill find out how much one is
of course ill have to get new valve seals with the new head and totally disassemble it,since it needs to be port/gasket matched+cleaned up a little in the ports
ive been driving it around a little still,and surprisingly it still has  lotsa power
i was using it in the backyard to drag out cut down trees like 20 feet long
i just wrap a chain around the tree+hook it to my hitch
ill have to get a video clip+call it "my john deere tractor,let me show you it" :lol:  :lol:
Throttle cables ftw

Reply #82August 02, 2007, 12:43:29 am

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« Reply #82 on: August 02, 2007, 12:43:29 am »
Torque!
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Reply #83August 03, 2007, 07:20:00 pm

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« Reply #83 on: August 03, 2007, 07:20:00 pm »
diesels kick ass


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Reply #84August 04, 2007, 12:44:48 am

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« Reply #84 on: August 04, 2007, 12:44:48 am »
Quote from: "G60ING"
Hey there this is Frank the guy with the DZSL SLC (Corrado TDI) that was great run you had against me where you nailed your dial in. I plan to play with mysetup and see if I can squeeze a few more tenths out of her and get a 14.9



dude go on vortex,and read the waterfest report,,they loved ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!










heres my plan for the ultime timing belt fix:
ditch the mk1 motor mount/pump bracket
and use the ahu bracket with the auto tensioner,and extra tensioner wheel that mounts between the pump+cam gear
then use a "gas engine mk1 engine mount"
all i gotta do is press out my HD mount from my diesel bracket+put it in the extra gas engine mount  i found layin in a pile of parts

funny fact: the gas mount  i found has a date code painted on it ,and its on my birthday,but 1983
im hopin it brings me more luck

im thinkin that the ahu  tensioner setup will handle the revs better
 wether  i rebuild my head or not,im not sure,but the tensioner stud threads are easily fixed by a heli-coil if i do use it.....
Throttle cables ftw

Reply #85August 04, 2007, 06:50:31 pm

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« Reply #85 on: August 04, 2007, 06:50:31 pm »
Take a look at a 1.6TD/1.9TD camshaft while you are at it if yours is stock TDI stuff...it might shock you to see the difference!
Waiting for a bigger better diesel to come along.
2002 ford focme wagon

Reply #86August 06, 2007, 05:11:32 pm

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« Reply #86 on: August 06, 2007, 05:11:32 pm »
Quote from: "hillfolk'r"



heres my plan for the ultime timing belt fix:
ditch the mk1 motor mount/pump bracket
and use the ahu bracket with the auto tensioner,and extra tensioner wheel that mounts between the pump+cam gear
then use a "gas engine mk1 engine mount"
all i gotta do is press out my HD mount from my diesel bracket+put it in the extra gas engine mount  i found layin in a pile of parts

funny fact: the gas mount  i found has a date code painted on it ,and its on my birthday,but 1983
im hopin it brings me more luck

im thinkin that the ahu  tensioner setup will handle the revs better
 wether  i rebuild my head or not,im not sure,but the tensioner stud threads are easily fixed by a heli-coil if i do use it.....


Sounds familar...however, you may run into a few problems.
The MK1 gas motor mount will require you to use a "gas" accessory bracket mounting as well. If you look at the gas motor mount it is not totally flat (like the very long mk1 style mount w/ ip mount as well) is. It has a "rise" where it would attach to the front of the block. You'll either have to use the gasser accessory mount that has the extra "ear" that attaches to the bracket/wraps around the front of the block or you can make your own spacer to take up the room to account for the rise in the gasser mount. If you check my thread, I believe I have pictures up of what I am talking about here.

Easier fix...use the MK1 diesel mount but cut off the injection pump mounting portion. Again, there are pics in my thread about how I did it, etc. but its pretty self explantory. Then you can use the MK1 mount, the AHU/1z style pump bracket as well as your v belt setup if you want. I've got all the AHU/1z timing bits on my motor, with the chopped MK1 diesel mount but am using serpentine instead.

Will save a bit of time and extra effort in the mount pressing, etc... but hey...to each is own!


The write up on the 'rado on the Vortex was cool! Would have been neat for them to do a bit more in detail! Heard there weren't that many MK1's there though :(

Joe
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Reply #87August 07, 2007, 08:00:59 pm

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« Reply #87 on: August 07, 2007, 08:00:59 pm »
Quote from: "Slave2School"
Take a look at a 1.6TD/1.9TD camshaft while you are at it if yours is stock TDI stuff...it might shock you to see the difference!



darn.............
ive got a 1.6td cam laying around ,but its solid lifter :cry:

 

yea joe, i realized after i typed that all up and then went and looked at my gasser mount that it may be easier to do what you explained  above
 :wink:
ive still been limping it around  town here+there,keepin it local
some ricer wanted to mess with me,and i was a little nervous about it
but he got smoked(with soot,and acceleration)
but this thing still has real good power,surprisingly
still feels faster than my old 1.6td for sure
yea i know its not the greatest thing to do(drive it),hopefully in the next month ill tear into it and assess  the situation and see what ill need to do to fix it
Throttle cables ftw

Reply #88August 07, 2007, 08:41:54 pm

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« Reply #88 on: August 07, 2007, 08:41:54 pm »
tear into it and fix it,  it's cheap and easy plus you have a work vehicle and another car to drive and two shops..just do it..hehehe

Reply #89August 07, 2007, 11:23:48 pm

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« Reply #89 on: August 07, 2007, 11:23:48 pm »
i found valves at rapid parts int/exh
like 17-19 each..... better than the crooks at impex who wanted like 30each!!!!!.ill just get them all for the int+exh
but they sell the  junk reintz headgaskets
ill get another at the dealer
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