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December 15, 2004, 02:38:05 pm

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« on: December 15, 2004, 02:38:05 pm »
Whats the best way to fit a two circuit immobiliser on a A2 IDI engine with CE2 electronics?

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Reply #1December 15, 2004, 04:02:20 pm

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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2004, 04:02:20 pm »
You don't want any power going to the starter solenoid or the injection pump.  I have no idea how an immobilizer works.

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Reply #2December 18, 2004, 04:46:11 pm

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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2004, 04:46:11 pm »
I was thinking of putting that in my car... just for the sole reason that the lights can stay on after the key is out!!! I don't know how many times that has left me with a near dead battery :(  (rushing to work, then running in.... forgeting to turn lights off... or radio even... lol)  Your best bet is to just buy the heavy 5-6 gage wire from a hardware store, and connect that to your battery and run it behind the firewall to the fuse panel.. then you can connect whatever kinda gizmo (I was going to use a switch, connected to the ignition.... somehow!!!)


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Reply #3December 18, 2004, 11:58:08 pm

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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2004, 11:58:08 pm »
Quote from: "srivett"
You don't want any power going to the starter solenoid or the injection pump. I have no idea how an immobilizer works.


Cheers Steve, thats what I thought, Basically its a two circuit immobiliser which means it has two pairs of wires for the immobiliser, to fit it you the wire on the circuit you want to immobilise then solder one side of the cut to one wire of a pair then solder the other wire of the pair to the other bit of the wire that you cut, it just acts like a switch, immobilisers are quite simple really.



Here the system I'm installing, its similar in spec to the Cliford Concept 600, I've had both and I prefer the simplicity of this as I've never had a problem with this system, though I have with Clifford. Its only false alarmed 3 times in 4 years! I also going to add two stage shock, two zone microwave and tilt sensors.

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I was thinking of putting that in my car... just for the sole reason that the lights can stay on after the key is out!!! I don't know how many times that has left me with a near dead battery :(  (rushing to work, then running in.... forgeting to turn lights off... or radio even... lol)  Your best bet is to just buy the heavy 5-6 gage wire from a hardware store, and connect that to your battery and run it behind the firewall to the fuse panel.. then you can connect whatever kinda gizmo (I was going to use a switch, connected to the ignition.... somehow!!!)


All you need is a lights left on buzzer and to wire your radio properly, what model and year of car is it?

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Reply #4December 20, 2004, 07:38:56 am

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2004, 07:38:56 am »
Don't spend too much on an immobilizer, anyone with half a mechanical brain can bypass it in 2 minutes on an IDI engine. They do have to know an IDI engine when they see one though.
Current car: '92 Fiat Croma TDID, similar to VW TDI only completely mechanical DI - with VE-style pump.
Previous car: '84 mk2 diesel, w/1.6TD swap ('86 hyd engine), 9mm plunger, KKK K24.

Reply #5December 20, 2004, 08:03:14 am

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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2004, 08:03:14 am »
Quote from: "web"
Don't spend too much on an immobilizer, anyone with half a mechanical brain can bypass it in 2 minutes on an IDI engine. They do have to know an IDI engine when they see one though.


I'ts aint cost me anything as I originally had it fitted to my old '91 1.3 Jetta which I'm breaking so I decided to transfer it over.

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Reply #6December 20, 2004, 01:15:15 pm

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2004, 01:15:15 pm »
Yeah, but if you get carjacked you can kill the engine just before they are in the middle of an intersection running a red light with a transport coming.

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Reply #7December 20, 2004, 02:57:55 pm

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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2004, 02:57:55 pm »
Quote from: "srivett"
Yeah, but if you get carjacked you can kill the engine just before they are in the middle of an intersection running a red light with a transport coming.

Steve


 :lol: :lol: :lol:

I live in England, not south central LA, not many car jackings over here and I cant really see someone stealing my old '91 GTD. :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

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Reply #8December 20, 2004, 04:35:49 pm

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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2004, 04:35:49 pm »
They do steal old cars but that's just joyriding or someone who needs temporary transportation. The car will be abandoned somewhere sooner or later, not always in the best of shapes though.
Current car: '92 Fiat Croma TDID, similar to VW TDI only completely mechanical DI - with VE-style pump.
Previous car: '84 mk2 diesel, w/1.6TD swap ('86 hyd engine), 9mm plunger, KKK K24.

Reply #9December 23, 2004, 11:55:57 pm

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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2004, 11:55:57 pm »
Hi,
I recently wired a immobilizer into my '85 turbo diesel Toyota 4x4, it was really simple, you either need to splice into the power wire to the injection pump or to the starter solenoid.  I did the injection pump, but I'm installing another one on the starter pretty soon.

To all those in Canada interested in getting an immobilizer, Princess Auto has some that they're trying to get rid of for $5.99 CND!!  Brand new, made by Club.

While it's true that the system is very basic, the types of thieves looking to steal an old diesel VW probably have the IQ of a fruit fly.  They want something quick, going under the hood and jumping a wire to the injection pump might be a bit too much!

Cheers!
Tyler
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Reply #10December 26, 2004, 07:19:56 am

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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2004, 07:19:56 am »
I just use the cigerette lighter. Connect the cigerette lighter in series with the shutdown solenoid. Push in the lighter and then start the engine. Pull it out after shutdown. If you are really worried, take the lighter with you. How many thieves carry a 12v cigerette lighter with them? Cost? Nada!