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Reply #30June 24, 2007, 12:58:33 pm

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« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2007, 12:58:33 pm »
Pretty much every stock diesel on the market will do that (Especially the Dodge/GM/Ford pickups in the states), it's considered normal and not really harmful.

Reply #31June 25, 2007, 12:43:17 am

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« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2007, 12:43:17 am »
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when i pull to full boost, and i release on a high rpm, my turbo makes dumpvalve sound, is that surge also? Do i need to use a dieseldumpvalve?
now the vnt is even not fulle adjusted, the vanes dont close much when offboost.

Greetz, Benjamin


No, that's normal when you are using high boost. Surge is a chattering sound and you can hear it very clearly at first and then it fades away. It's like TSAT-tsat-TSAT-tsat-TSAT-tsat
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Reply #32July 01, 2007, 06:22:36 pm

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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2007, 06:22:36 pm »
Quote from: "OM617"
Pretty much every stock diesel on the market will do that (Especially the Dodge/GM/Ford pickups in the states), it's considered normal and not really harmful.

If it isn't harmful then why would manufacturers bother spending the time and money to design surge protection into turbos? It puts a lot of stress on the turbo.
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Reply #33July 04, 2007, 01:38:27 am

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« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2007, 01:38:27 am »
Quote from: shadowmaker
Quote from: Benjamin
when i pull to full boost, and i release on a high rpm, my turbo makes dumpvalve sound, is that surge also? Do i need to use a dieseldumpvalve?
now the vnt is even not fulle adjusted, the vanes dont close much when offboost.

Greetz, Benjamin


No, that's normal when you are using high boost. Surge is a chattering sound and you can hear it very clearly at first and then it fades away. It's like TSAT-tsat-TSAT-tsat-TSAT-tsat





to me that is the mostest coolest sound,lol
i make mine do it on purpose,sorta
wind it out in a gear,lots of boost....then push in the clutch,and shift grandma slow,,you get the chuffin sound
it sounds like rapid flatuation,,lol
 :lol:  :lol:
Throttle cables ftw

Reply #34July 04, 2007, 02:53:58 pm

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« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2007, 02:53:58 pm »
Quote from: OM617
Pretty much every stock diesel on the market will do that (Especially the Dodge/GM/Ford pickups in the states), it's considered normal and not really harmful.


 :shock:  :shock:

surge, not good in any way, shape, or form.

It's like spinning a bike wheel up and then shoving a stick in the spokes.

and hillfolk, that'd explain why your turbos blow so fast  :wink:

Reply #35July 04, 2007, 03:07:33 pm

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« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2007, 03:07:33 pm »
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Quote from: "OM617"
Pretty much every stock diesel on the market will do that (Especially the Dodge/GM/Ford pickups in the states), it's considered normal and not really harmful.


 :shock:  :shock:

surge, not good in any way, shape, or form.

It's like spinning a bike wheel up and then shoving a stick in the spokes.

and hillfolk, that'd explain why your turbos blow so fast  :wink:


it was an answer to my quistion, we'r not talking about surge

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Reply #36July 04, 2007, 03:45:03 pm

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« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2007, 03:45:03 pm »
oh ok, didn't read back any, my fault.

Reply #37July 04, 2007, 05:39:32 pm

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« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2007, 05:39:32 pm »
Quote from: ezekiel
Quote from: OM617
Pretty much every stock diesel on the market will do that (Especially the Dodge/GM/Ford pickups in the states), it's considered normal and not really harmful.


 :shock:  :shock:

surge, not good in any way, shape, or form.

It's like spinning a bike wheel up and then shoving a stick in the spokes.

and hillfolk, that'd explain why your turbos blow so fast  :wink:


one of the garretts blew a the exhaust wheel right out of the dp at the  drags at the 1000 foot mark


one of the kkk's let that lame thrust bearing go at hi revs+pumped about 1 qt  of oil in the intake
so no that doesnt explain why im blowing turbos
maybe its because i let   them go full  boost(40+psi) ,and im seeing 1500degree exhaust temps
the turbine  wheels are literaly melting off ,or getting fatigued
Throttle cables ftw

 

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