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Reply #15May 26, 2007, 01:22:23 pm

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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2007, 01:22:23 pm »
Just a quick question before my break is over.  I seam to remember reading here that a higher breaking pressure on the injectors was a good thing--up to a certain point.  They guy doing my injectors wanted to know what I wanted them set at.  I said 155 BAR.  I will be running a Giles pump, so I guess the breaking pressure is negotiable.  
So now I am starting to get into the technical aspects of my engine set-up.  I will call Giles and talk to him about it, but would like to get some additional feedback.  What do you think?
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Reply #16May 26, 2007, 07:15:05 pm

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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2007, 07:15:05 pm »
I found them on ebay. They are complete and are said to be Bosch but who nows. I was quoted $20 per injector also. So that sounds fair. I don't have any injector bodies so i figured i would just get some already to go. I thought about trying the big merc injectors we had talked about through email but i can't find any complete bosch units. plus those were alot more expensive.
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Reply #17May 31, 2007, 04:31:40 pm

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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2007, 04:31:40 pm »
Middle piston rings are now on the way to Total Seal for the gapless mod.
Cost is $10 per ring and a $10 set up fee.
Bit the bullet and sent the IP up to Giles today. Bastards at the Post Office Screwed me over for almost $38 to ship it. I guess I will be staying with the stock 9mm plunger.  Not sure what Giles will be doing to the pump.  I told him I would be running high 20's-mid 30's for boost and that it would be intercooled.  Any considerations if I am planning to use this pump on a 1.9 build up in a year or two? Camplate changes? Any idea on what these will be able as far as upper rpm range?
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Reply #18June 09, 2007, 06:16:23 pm

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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2007, 06:16:23 pm »
Well, the wife came up today and asked about the credit card bill. " Who is Perf Diesel in Canada?"  Teeheehee!

One Super Pump is on the way to my house :D
I asked Giles about the particulars of the mod.  

" It will now deliver 2 times it's normal fuel, upper rpm has no cut off, just your right foot"    :shock:  :twisted:  8)  "It will do anything you want, even on the 1.9"

The build up continues.

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1980 VW Rabbit LS 5-spd, 4-door 1.6NA almost 450,000miles  RIP

Reply #19June 09, 2007, 07:39:32 pm

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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2007, 07:39:32 pm »
Quote from: "subsonic"
"It will do anything you want, even on the 1.9"


if only Giles could work on women...!!!


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Reply #20June 09, 2007, 09:27:20 pm

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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2007, 09:27:20 pm »
Performance injection..... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Reply #21June 09, 2007, 09:45:04 pm

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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2007, 09:45:04 pm »
So now I am on the hunt for an intercooler.
From the beginning:

Intercooler:  Looked at prices for new-ouch.  The junkyard looks to be calling my name.  Any preference between air to air or air to liquid? Could an electric fan be added to help draw air through to help cool?  What makes should I be looking in for a really effective unit. I.e. Sabb, Audi, or something larger?

Brett wrote:
  With all of the other performance goodies you are asking about it seem pretty weak to cheap out at a vital part like the intercooler, look at a precsion intercooler they are well designed run bar and plate have nice end tanks and are about $250USD for the size you would want (there 350hp rated one) I'm not up on my junkyard intercoolers anymore, I ran an MX6/Probe one for a bit many years ago, but for the $$$ I would get a precsion one now.

http://www.precisionturbo.net/intercoolers-display.php?company_id=101795&category_id=3013

So they look to be a direct seller.  Does anyone have any good intel or a source to work for a discount on these intercoolers?  I see them being sold used every once in a while.  Any thing I should watch out for in a used intercooler?
I was looking at total set up cost for a intercooler VS a water injection system.  By the time you get everything together for the IC, your close to, or at the cost of a Snow injection System.
Anyone have any opinions?
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1980 VW Rabbit LS 5-spd, 4-door 1.6NA almost 450,000miles  RIP

Reply #22June 09, 2007, 10:05:49 pm

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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2007, 10:05:49 pm »
When I looked for one at the junkyard, EVERY car with an IC had been stripped of it. Hopefully it is better where you live. E-Bay has some good deals sometimes, or maybe try your local Saab junkyard. I am putting a small fan in front of mine, maybe with it's own temp control.
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Reply #23June 10, 2007, 12:43:08 pm

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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2007, 12:43:08 pm »
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I am putting a small fan in front of mine, maybe with it's own temp control.


Shouldn't the fan be behind the IC. Something about the air flow being less turbulant?
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Reply #24June 10, 2007, 12:53:34 pm

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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2007, 12:53:34 pm »
Quote from: "burn_your_money"
Quote from: "jimfoo"
I am putting a small fan in front of mine, maybe with it's own temp control.


Shouldn't the fan be behind the IC. Something about the air flow being less turbulant?

Maybe, but the radiator is behind the IC, sooo...
Jim
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Reply #25June 11, 2007, 07:44:36 am

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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2007, 07:44:36 am »
as long as you have ducting to direct airflow over through the IC then the rad, it will be ok.  that way when the fan pulls air, it needs to pull from the IC first.


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Reply #26June 11, 2007, 02:34:24 pm

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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2007, 02:34:24 pm »
Jim
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Reply #27June 11, 2007, 03:17:03 pm

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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2007, 03:17:03 pm »
That appears to be a vey good deal, I wonder what shipping is?
Oh well, as always happens, a good deal comes along a bit to late.  I just purchased a new Precision Intercooler today for 249.00 plus shipping direct from the company.  It is rated for 350 HP.  The rep on the phone said it should be 295.00.  I pointed out the website and it turns out they forgot to update the price.  They honored the old price. Should be here by the end of the week.

I will pick up my rebuilt 1.9TD injectors tomorrow morning. 300TD nozzles in them. Pressure set to 155 BAR.  Guy said that he got them within one BAR of each other, lowest to highest.

Still building.
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Reply #28June 12, 2007, 03:03:41 pm

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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2007, 03:03:41 pm »
Picked up the injectors. All cleaned up and looking good.
Victor Reinz 1.9TD metal HG arrived in the mail today along with a rubber VC gasket with nice german writing on it.  Also in the box, 8 new injector heat shields, a handful of new freeze plugs, one box of Glyco main bearings and a baggie with seperate thrust washers. Thanks Myke.

Another step forward.
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1980 VW Rabbit LS 5-spd, 4-door 1.6NA almost 450,000miles  RIP

Reply #29June 15, 2007, 02:36:43 pm

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« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2007, 02:36:43 pm »
Precision Intercooler arrived today. :D
Pictues to follow when I figure out how to fix the dicked up focus on my camera.
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1985 VW Golf 5-spd, 4-door, 1.6NA  Bought from orig. owner in Savannah with 42,000 miles.
"Making the jump NA to TD" slow but sure.

1980 VW Rabbit LS 5-spd, 4-door 1.6NA almost 450,000miles  RIP

 

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