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September 05, 2006, 01:42:20 am

Justin

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« on: September 05, 2006, 01:42:20 am »
so I am trying to plan my mechanical TDI transplant and I was wondering what oil pan you guys who run TDI's use in the rabbit chassis? below is a link to my cardomain website to see what I have right now.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2449597/1

also what transmission do you guys run? 4 speeds, 5 speeds? I have an old ff 5 speed that I know will not hold up to the torque, and I have a 4a 4 speed with almost 200 k on it and probably would need to be gone through. what do you guys suggest for a clutch, and tranny.

last question for now, do the 100mm cv's fit the rabbits? because i know that after I resolve the clutch and tranny weak links that I will be breaking cv's.

ground up swap so now is the time to chime in, I will be sticking with the 9mm TDI plunger, but with TDI tunings stage 3 injectors. I am in need of a camshaft right now, anyone out there have one, even custom? 935 racer I am looking at you here.

thanks in advance guys


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1997 Geo Tracker 1.9 TDI-M, variable gate turbo, Giles Pump

Reply #1September 05, 2006, 02:00:47 am

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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2006, 02:00:47 am »
-Looks like a vanagon oil pan of some sort, try and find a golf jetta version

- and of the transmissions that just bolt into the rabbit chassis, known as o2o's are gonna be weak, if you arent going for too much power, under 250ft lbs of torque and under 200 whp and you don't drive like a tool you will probably only have to replace them everynow and than. Once you start making good torque you will become an o2o swap artist. Please don't ask me how I know... :roll:  If you are going to just run this o2o for now I sell a great  4 puck sprung center clutch disk with a sachs pressur eplate that will hold more power than the transmission its self can.

-on the 84 gti's and all the 16 sciroccos you can get 100mm mk1 axles, these of course will only fit the 100mm axle flanges, that ff trans will have 90mm flanges, simply swap them out for the 100mm ones and you are golden.

-The smallest tdi plunger is 10mm, not 9, go with the 11 if you have the chance, you can always turn the fueling down a bit if you like, but than you would be a whimp :lol:

-What size are these injectors?

-custom cams are no problem here 8)

Reply #2September 05, 2006, 02:04:55 am

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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2006, 02:04:55 am »
yea i just swapped my first trans this weekend
bye bye 7a tranny :cry: hello ach :cry:
i got it down to 1 hour 15 mins its out,with just using air tools for the driveshafts only,and thats not a rush either,im just gettin that good :roll:
Throttle cables ftw

Reply #3September 05, 2006, 02:15:52 am

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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2006, 02:15:52 am »
There was a point in time approx one year ago where I had a 16vturbo GTI, Dvst8r had his tuned 1.6td and a couple of my other buddys with tuned turbo motors and we were all running o2o trannys. I became the official o2o swapper for myself and everyone, got down to 1 hour 50 minutes for the re&re, if I had to do a clutch and a rear main seal it was about 2 hours flat. I just did one a few days back and it took me almost 3 hours for a clutch job :oops:  Gettin outa shape.

Reply #4September 05, 2006, 07:28:42 am

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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2006, 07:28:42 am »
935 racer,
so the oil pan from mikey works FS column should work for me? will I have to swap the oil pump pickup? and how much ground clearance will I gain with one of those pans?
how much are your TDI cams, I am probably going to shoot for about 150 hp and 250-275 lb-ft of torque, I basically just do not have a camshaft right now and am going to need one, will one of the cams work from the 99.5-2003 TDI's cause I have a line on a used one.
the nozzles that I am getting are the .22mm
what breaks in the 020's so the caddy will take 100mm cv outers?

thanks guys
Justin
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1985 GMC pickup 4x4 lift kit and runs 14.625 @ 91mph
1982 VW rabbit pickup 1.6L just rebuilt, 100mm cv's, 02A transmission
1997 Geo Tracker 1.9 TDI-M, variable gate turbo, Giles Pump

Reply #5September 11, 2006, 10:07:31 pm

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2006, 10:07:31 pm »
Everything breaks in the 020s, the main thing is the rivets in the differential I think though.
You need the 100mm hubs for the caddy and then you are golden. A 16V scirocco is your best bet
Tyler

Reply #6September 12, 2006, 01:07:58 am

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2006, 01:07:58 am »
what about the 4A tranny's I think that they are stronger but I am not for sure, any input on this???????

what do you mean by a 16V scirroco is my best bet?
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1982 VW rabbit pickup 1.6L just rebuilt, 100mm cv's, 02A transmission
1997 Geo Tracker 1.9 TDI-M, variable gate turbo, Giles Pump

Reply #7November 03, 2006, 05:38:04 pm

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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2006, 05:38:04 pm »
The 16 vavle scirocco is your best bet for finding the 100mm axles, flanges and hub/caliper carriers.. whatever they are called
Tyler

Reply #8November 04, 2006, 08:41:13 am

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2006, 08:41:13 am »
In most of the computer sims I have done, the 4a was the fastest tranny for 1/4 mile times out of all of the other 5-speeds that I tested.  The only real variable that I dont know is how strong they are.  But they are lightweight and relatively easy to tear down (so I've heard) so it might be a good choice.  Getting a differential bolt kit would probably be essential, and I imagine with fresh bearings and synchros it would be strong enough for what you are doing.  The 100mm flanges (from a 16v Scirocco, or even a MKII GTI) should swap over without issues.  The 4-speed shift linkage has a few different parts than the 5-speed, best to upgrade to missing linkz stuff, they have a 4-speed kit.  I'd be really interested to hear how the 4-speed turns out, they seem to have a good ratio match to a TDI engine.  Good luck!

P.S. oh yeah, I've had my O20 out in 40 minutes, but I took a break before I put it back in, so more like 2.5 hours R&R.  :)

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Reply #9November 06, 2006, 11:19:21 pm

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2006, 11:19:21 pm »
hey i used the tdi pan,,but i made a custom oil drain from the turbo and i placed a bulkhead in the pan,in the approximate area that it woulda been on the old td engine
i didnt wanna put the oil drainback in the blockwhere it normally is,cause i didnt wanna deal with the windage from the crank,for 1 thing
im usin a 5 speed 020 right now,,ive blown  1 or2 but im hard on parts too,,
i still run 90mm cv's theres not a problem there
i run a peloquin 80% kit,,but thats the minium you would need for traction
Throttle cables ftw

Reply #10November 12, 2006, 01:44:29 pm

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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2006, 01:44:29 pm »
yeah i think the 100mm axel stuff is a waste of time, i just haven't seen enough of them breaking and being that big of a problem, i think more 020s go than cv joints haha. so yeah, i wouldn't waste time on that, but if anyone wants a set of 100mm knuckles off of a 16v scirocco i have a set that i'll let go for like um i dunno 50 bucks or something.  they have the hubs and good bearings and everything in them. let me know haha
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Reply #11November 12, 2006, 01:47:32 pm

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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2006, 01:47:32 pm »
do those include the hubs from the transmission since mine has the 90 mm hubs? let me know I am interested in them
later
Justin
www.archeryprostaffmi.com
1985 GMC pickup 4x4 lift kit and runs 14.625 @ 91mph
1982 VW rabbit pickup 1.6L just rebuilt, 100mm cv's, 02A transmission
1997 Geo Tracker 1.9 TDI-M, variable gate turbo, Giles Pump

 

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