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Reply #45August 17, 2006, 03:40:34 am

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« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2006, 03:40:34 am »
I think the 210mm, 16V flywheels have 1 pin and the 210mm, 8V flywheels have 2 pins.
 How can you get an 8V (210mm) flywheel to bolt onto a 16V pressure plate with this difference?
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with a re-ringed, '84 quantum, turbo diesel, MD block

Reply #46August 19, 2006, 02:44:02 am

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« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2006, 02:44:02 am »
when put a "real" 16v pressure plate in my old  83 gti,i didnt have a problem
but i think the 16v press.plate had an extra notch,cause somehow i couldnt read my timing marks anymore,and i seemed to be 90 deg. off
make sure ya got the crank on or near the tdc mark before ya remove the old one

ive never had a problem with other "16v" press. plates ive used with my 8v flywheels,just the issue of making a new timing mark,the orig one is about an inch off
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Reply #47August 19, 2006, 09:02:30 am

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« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2006, 09:02:30 am »
Quote from: hillfolk'r
when put a "real" 16v pressure plate in my old  83 gti,i didnt have a problem
but i think the 16v press.plate had an extra notch,cause somehow i couldnt read my timing marks anymore,and i seemed to be 90 deg. off
make sure ya got the crank on or near the tdc mark before ya remove the old one

ive never had a problem with other "16v" press. plates ive used with my 8v flywheels,just the issue of making a new timing mark,the orig one is about an inch off


Installed a new head gasket. Indicated in TDC, then put matching marks on the crank sprocket and front seal housing. I'll align those, install the clutch and trans, then mark the flywheel.

Reply #48August 19, 2006, 10:54:20 am

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« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2006, 10:54:20 am »
you should really use a piston stop to accurately locate tdc
ask therabbittree how he knows :wink:
Throttle cables ftw

Reply #49August 19, 2006, 11:20:19 pm

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« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2006, 11:20:19 pm »
Quote from: hillfolk'r
you should really use a piston stop to accurately locate tdc
ask therabbittree how he knows :wink:


Piston stop?   I had the cylinder off and used a 0.001 in. dial indicator. Came up on TDC both directions to verify location. One tooth is a mile off TDC. With the pump locked in and on my mark, I can't see how I can screw up the timing. But will triple check it using trans/flywheel mark on diesel flywheel before installing the 16V clutch.

What happened to therabbittree's motor? :shock:

Reply #50August 20, 2006, 02:06:59 am

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« Reply #50 on: August 20, 2006, 02:06:59 am »
what im sayin is,you have to make a new mark on a 210 flywheel,because the tdc mark on the 210 is not in the same spot  as it was on the 200 mm,have fun doing a timing belt down the road,if you go by the orig tdc mark on the 210




when i converted to a 210,and i put the engine back in my car,i couldnt figure out why i couldnt get it timed right
i was scratchin my head for a few days,then i jammed some wire down the #1 injector hole to make a hillfolk piston stop,thats when i found the tdc mark was like an inch off,i re marked it,and everything was fine
it was a major pita too,being in the car with the trans installed
the next conversion to a 210 that i did,and i found that tdc mark not correct,but this time i was smart,i didnt have the trans back on yet and i made this tool
it worked great along with some half baked piston stop you can make to fit thru the prechamber hole
the one in the pic is for my tdi,but i used  the tranny chunk though
Throttle cables ftw

 

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