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August 16, 2006, 08:20:34 am

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« on: August 16, 2006, 08:20:34 am »
http://www.fuelenhancer.com/test-d.html

don't know if anyone have seen this before? got it off "trucking news" magazine... cost is $150 for gasoline and $400 for Diesel trucks - those prices are in canadian dollars. it says that it will increase power UP TO 40% and reduce emission by 50%.



Reply #1August 16, 2006, 12:18:43 pm

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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2006, 12:18:43 pm »
Their test numbers indicate a 4% change in cetane number and a 7% change in fuel boil-off.  I have no idea how those numbers would affect performance, but those are the first two things they say their product affects.  Also, those numbers are based on fuel spending 1 minutein their product.  If you look at the picture, there is no way fuel would spend 1 minute in it even at an idle.  So how would that add up to a 40% change in power?  It's pure BS, and I'll bet it's just a modern take on the old "magnets realigning fuel molecules".
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Reply #2August 16, 2006, 01:20:38 pm

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actually increasing the cetane number lowers the temp that diesel needs to burn. Thus meaning you don't need as high of compression, and that more of the diesel will be turned into mechanical energy, and not lost out the tailpipe as black soot.

after looking at that website, I can hardly see how it might increase the cetane number...  it does seem like some BS to me!

If I saw some electrical wires going to it, I might suspect it might actually work.   How the hell do you re-arrange molecules that are not affected by magnets with powerful rare earth magnets?  Doesn't make sense to me.

1.9blues if you're willing to try it out, please inform us of your experience with this product :)


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Reply #3August 16, 2006, 01:32:30 pm

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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2006, 01:32:30 pm »
It sounds like BS to me as well...

I took one of these apart, this is what I found....







Yea total BS.
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Reply #4August 16, 2006, 06:21:31 pm

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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2006, 06:21:31 pm »
:lol:

I bet its one of those fuel magnetizer scams.

The first sign that it is a scam, is because you cannot charge an object with a rare earth magnet.  You can only give it a very temporary charge, that will dissipate almost immediately.   I would like to see a system that uses power to ionize or charge the molecules.  Then it might actually be able to back up minor claims.


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Reply #5August 16, 2006, 07:17:41 pm

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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2006, 07:17:41 pm »
Quote from: 1.9blues
http://www.fuelenhancer.com/test-d.html

don't know if anyone have seen this before? got it off "trucking news" magazine... cost is $150 for gasoline and $400 for Diesel trucks - those prices are in canadian dollars. it says that it will increase power UP TO 40% and reduce emission by 50%.


It can, but you can acheive the same results by pointing your car downhill.

THeir site has enough misinformation, there is IMO no way the product could be as advertised.

"If the technology works so well, why don't vehicle manufacturers put it on their new vehicles?
Fuel efficiency has never been a huge concern for automakers."
Hmm, ever wonder why cars are made with somuch plastic?
Automakers are heavily penalised for poor economy, so it is an overriding design concern.
http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/

"Extensive testing by the development team, government and independent labs has been done on the FUELTEC to ensure that the unit performs as stated."
Then these guys should say its cool?
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/gasave.htm

Here
http://www.fuelenhancer.com/test-e.html
Their emission tests(scanned?) are 3 monts apart, making winter fuel formulation, tune ups, engine rebuilds and anything else a possible factor.

Anyone doing a real test tells youhow it was done, thesse guys make a graph with pretty colors
http://www.fuelenhancer.com/test-d.html


I have wasted more time resonding to this post than they did designing their product.
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Reply #6August 17, 2006, 11:16:29 am

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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2006, 11:16:29 am »
u guys all have a good point about the product...

the reason why i think it might work is that... a cat. is a product with no wires etc... but it does change the exhaust gasses. the site should have more info. about the product and less advertising messages.

Reply #7August 17, 2006, 12:33:02 pm

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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2006, 12:33:02 pm »
http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=24513&highlight=#24513

I know Chris-pl ended up getting one of those for his car.

Reply #8August 17, 2006, 02:26:36 pm

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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2006, 02:26:36 pm »
Quote from: 1.9blues
u guys all have a good point about the product...

the reason why i think it might work is that... a cat. is a product with no wires etc... but it does change the exhaust gasses. the site should have more info. about the product and less advertising messages.


The cat is an interesting anti-pollution device.  It contains special metals like Platinum that can get extremely hot (reason being why they are so expensive!).   That is also the reason why you are recommended to drive on the highway to get the engine real hot so the cat can burn what the engine does not.

I have seen a website where some guy used a cat to super heat his fuel into gas vapours and actually change it on a molecular level.  Supposedly he achieved around 80 mpg in an 8 cylinder vehicle.  This is the basis for the 200 MPG carburetor you might have heard of.  The problem with this is some of the residues left over by what the petroleum companies add gets stuck on the hot catalytic surface.  This basically accumulates within months, or even sooner depending on type of gas/how much you drive, and renders the device useless until you clean it again.   Probably why nobody can get it to work properly.

These guys explain it quite well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter

IMO that is the best fuel saving device, it actually changes the molecular structure!  How is a measley magnet going to do that?!  :lol:

I was wondering about a few things though, since I'm not a scientist.  Thing's like... Autoignition of the gasoline etc.  I guess the fuel would be super heated in a controlled environment.  It would not explode unless the fuel/air mixture was less than 1.4%.  


I can't find the link for the guy's van that got 80 mpg (probably got paid off or something...)


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Reply #9August 17, 2006, 03:40:29 pm

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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2006, 03:40:29 pm »
misread post to which I replied.

Reply #10August 17, 2006, 03:40:50 pm

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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2006, 03:40:50 pm »
Quote from: 1.9blues
the site should have more info. about the product and less advertising messages.



They had to word it very carefuly, or they would be guilty of fraud.

Reply #11August 17, 2006, 06:36:35 pm

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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2006, 06:36:35 pm »
Snake oil.

Reply #12August 18, 2006, 04:57:02 pm

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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2006, 04:57:02 pm »
The following link deals specifically with magnets on gasoline, but they won't make much difference to diesel either.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars_trucks/1802932.html?page=2&c=y
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Reply #13August 19, 2006, 06:58:06 pm

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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2006, 06:58:06 pm »
if you want a real performance product, go with Power Service (comes in a white container with PS on it and a red cap) diesel additive.  Lubricates the pump and increases the cetane number.  My car runs really good and it adds some HP.  A jug of it cost me around $20 and its been 2 years and I'm still using the same one.  Doesn't take much.   You don't need to hit the pedal as hard to make the car go, thats the major fuel saver right there! :)

I see you are from Toronto.  If you're ever in the Oshawa area and I'm home, I would gladly slip some of the diesel additive in your tank for you to try it out.  Only place to get the big jug that I know of is at the Flying J which is off the 401 near Belleville.   Another place to buy it is Wal-Mart (only bottles though, and more expensive, but definitely worth it IMO).  It is also a diesel fuel anti-gel.  Great for us Canadians in the cold winter months! http://www.powerservice.com/

Come to think about it, I may just have to buy some of their Diesel Kleen additive for the summer months...  :D


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