Gotta Do a clutch etc etc

[fatmobile]

 If I remember right.
 The trany has to be rotated so the flange is higher.
 It can't be pulled straight out.

 I don't think you need to remove the p-side motor mount.
 If you lower that end much, watch the alternator and frame.

You took all the motor mounts off the trany right?

 And you can lower that end of the engine enough for the trany to clear the body?

[monst]

   So I need   a    set of circlip pliers for the drive flanges.....

 
    Can   someone provide me with the guaranteed...   beauty... pair    to  get them  off

local stores had  non-specific......  junky ones............


                   Link to them.....  and    company name... and model......

     I see  Knipex.......  makes some nice ones.......    but which ones???

 thanks, MOnst

[fatmobile]

 I use duck bill pliers.
 With the tip ground at a slight angle.
 These look wimmpy:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/KNIPEX-6-in-Plastic-Duck-Bill-Pliers-33-01-160/205333681

[libbydiesel]

You don't need to remove either of the drive flanges in order to remove the trans.  I know it seems like you have to, but you don't.  It will finagle around the flywheel/pressure plate.  You're just not angling it right.   

[monst]

Yeah, only one mount is connected....  Pside


Alright.....  I believe you.... on the  drive flang.ee   I could see it being possible....(curves around it)


                Perhaps,,,,, you can describe.....  using reference to..... orientation....  with respect to
              position using.........  o'clock.... terminology....

                  At this point......  the trans is being supported by the jack... and is not butted up to engine surface...
                                       Does this pose clearance problems...  (with finagling.... properly)
thanks, Monst

                       

[libbydiesel]

Once you get the the engine and trans unbolted from each other, there should be enough play so that as you are pulling the trans away from the engine, rather than just pulling it straight, you can angle it enough to sneak the flange around the flywheel.  FWIW, these are not heavy transmissions.  I like to have a tranny jack under it to take most of the weight, but I can easily lift one and can wiggle it while pulling it away from the engine.   

[monst]

      Yeah, weight of trans... not an issue......

        It is apart..... (mating surfaces are not touching)

       I think I will   get it back to where the mating surfaces are closer together.....

       then    try again as you describe.....


         In the event.....    I pop the flange off..(due to tired of wrestling with it)

          It is just pulling the seal off(cover.....)
          the circlip.....
          and the washer beneath it.....
         (there is a green collar on the trans)

           Is there a spring behind the flange?
         
            This can't be too much of a PIA to remove the flange(in the car) can it?
            AND   I would replace the seal  as a result...

M

[fatmobile]

 I call it turning more than angling.
 I think the back of the trany needs to be lifted up while the front goes down a little.

[libbydiesel]

It is just pulling the seal off(cover.....)
          the circlip.....
          and the washer beneath it.....
         (there is a green collar on the trans)

           Is there a spring behind the flange?
         
            This can't be too much of a PIA to remove the flange(in the car) can it?
            AND   I would replace the seal  as a result...

M

Yes, there is a spring behind the flange.  http://www.brokevw.com/020flange.html

[monst]

well...........................

     Transaxle/trans   is out on the floor... Now....  thanks!

Got lots of work ahead........

    I will post some more specific  details...... as I go.....

             Sadly, the clutch has much more material on it.....
the slipping is due to a highly glazed clutch due to oil contamination.....
The rear seal appears to be the culprit......

              Should I look to Sachs for all replacement needs... on parts?

                Seals as well???

Monst

[fatmobile]

 Glad you got it out.
I'm thinking it's the push rod tube seal that soaked your clutch.
 Most of the oil from a rear main seal leak hits the outside of the pressure plate and is spun off.
The push rod tube dumps it right in the center of the clutch and spins it outward onto the disk.
 Not sure what brand to buy.

[monst]

          Maybe it is both......
She has 
almost 300k.............



      Found a place to cut the flywheel........  they want  $150.00

                          I can get a new LUK  flywheel(supposedly LUK)    Saw it  for like $60.00... inclds.. shipping?
                            (have to look closer at the vin....  code:::  but 1.6L it supposedly fits)

                   I just hate buying stuff that sucks...... wouldn't want to have to deal with something stupid later
                     like a spun  starter ring  gear(%**^*) on the  flywheel.......


                           Just wondering thoughts out there..............

                        Save a little dough or not?

Monst

[fatmobile]

 $150 sounds pretty high.
 I used to get them done for $40 but that was  awhile ago and that shop has closed/moved.
 If it doesn't look too bad you can get away without having it resurfaced.
 Maybe scratch it up with some sandpaper.

[libbydiesel]

$150 to turn the flywheel?!?!  The last one I had turned was about a year ago and was ~$40 if memory serves.  $150 is ridiculous.

[monst]

Yup!......  I kinda had that feeling too.......  (too much...)
       I'm glad I didn't just bring it there and drop it off..........
(and get soaked for it later)   Sounds like they were just trying to "capitalize"  on a situation........
   
I got  a couple of other places to ask.......   I'll call them just to see.... (thanks for the tip on flywheel requiring special jig to cut etc etc.)

BUT, what do you think about the new ones that I have been seeing on line....  the run about  60 bucks?(they say they r LUK)

    Like I said earlier......    I hate to put something in and later it fails.......... especially something deep down there...
                    (like clutch peripherals  and    flywheel.