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Reply #15February 16, 2008, 11:09:00 am

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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2008, 11:09:00 am »
Since it is mentioned in another place on the governor mod  and not here, I thought I'd add that removing the intermediate spring can cause driveability problems. It is better to just shim the main spring and leave the intermediate alone. I can't find the post that talked about this, so it may have been deleted, so I wanted to repost it so people will know. Removing and shimming the intermediate spring makes it harder to keep the engine at a certain RPM when at lower RPM's. I have this problem with my vehicle since shimming the intermediate spring. Acceleration was much better however. Also, if you do decide to shim the intermediate spring, you may have to back out the residual fuel screw if your engine doesn't want to come back down to idle.
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Reply #16February 18, 2008, 12:27:09 am

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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2008, 12:27:09 am »
I too have just performed the GOV. mod by removing the intermediate spring and shiming the gap.  Now I've noticed that at lower throttle positions the engine seems to want to rev on its own.
Is this what your talking about Jimfoo.
 Sence doing the GOV. mod, the engine pulls harder and longer it to the RPM band (5000), but sustains RPM between shifts. Is that the draw back of doing the mod. Any feed back?
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Reply #17February 18, 2008, 12:54:53 am

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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2008, 12:54:53 am »
Yep, that's what I'm talking about. If you unscrew the residual fuel screw a little. it will probably help the rpm's come back down.
Jim
1966 Land-Rover 88" with 1.9 1Z which has been transformed to an M-TDI
TFO35 mechanically controlled VNT, IC , and 2.5" exhaust.
Driven daily

Reply #18February 18, 2008, 11:12:39 pm

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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2008, 11:12:39 pm »
Jimfoo, my revs come down to 1000, but when under heavy throttle runs, the RPMs stay higher than before. The fuel (power) screw is only turned in 1/4 turn to the right. The smoke screw on top is turned in 3/4 turn to the right. Should I replace the intermediate spring and only shim the main? The max EGTs that I see is 1000 deg.
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'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
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'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
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Reply #19February 19, 2008, 01:29:31 am

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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2008, 01:29:31 am »
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Should I replace the intermediate spring and only shim the main? The max EGTs that I see is 1000 deg.

That's what I have done to my pump.
Jim
1966 Land-Rover 88" with 1.9 1Z which has been transformed to an M-TDI
TFO35 mechanically controlled VNT, IC , and 2.5" exhaust.
Driven daily

Reply #20February 25, 2008, 08:54:59 am

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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2008, 08:54:59 am »
I made a fun video to show the governor spring in action.

I use a digital photo tach and I applied 2 reflective stripe to simulate the engine RPM.

You can see the idle spring fully compressed at very low rpm, intermadiate at med RPM, and the main at hight rpm.

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=6j0vrfaXPmw

Reply #21February 25, 2008, 04:04:40 pm

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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2008, 04:04:40 pm »
Holy crap!  That was cool!
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Reply #22June 30, 2008, 07:30:17 am

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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2008, 07:30:17 am »
I dont suppose it would be possible to have the pictures associated with the "how to" guide, updated.
All i get is red x's, or could someone send me the pics.....

Thanks
Anton

Reply #23September 23, 2009, 04:30:43 pm

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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2009, 04:30:43 pm »
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That's what I have done to my pump.

So how the car feels after reinstalling the intermediate spring and shimming the main?

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Reply #24September 29, 2009, 09:19:15 am

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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2009, 09:19:15 am »
So shimm the main spring only?

Reply #25December 24, 2009, 05:48:52 am

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« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2009, 05:48:52 am »
watching that video, it makes sense to me to shim the intermediate spring, the main spring doesn't do anything 'til 4500rpm...  ???

Reply #26December 29, 2009, 02:45:15 pm

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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2009, 02:45:15 pm »
I cant see any of the pics on here    is it my comp or is the pic host gone??  does any one has pics of the gov mod?

Reply #27June 04, 2013, 06:29:15 pm

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« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2013, 06:29:15 pm »
watching that video, it makes sense to me to shim the intermediate spring, the main spring doesn't do anything 'til 4500rpm...  ???

Well isnt around 4 k the beginning of the defueling we are tryin to fix to get some top end power
I can def feel the governor in my car killing the fun. 
That vid is awesome.
Throttle cables ftw