ARP/Raceware PNs

[jimfoo]

But the 1.9 has two different bolts, one style for the earlier and one for the later. Is the 1.6 bolt the same as one of these or is it unique? If so, then you need 2 connecting rods for the 2 different AAZ styles.

[subsonic]

Addautomotive pm sent.  Jimfoo, I was unaware of this as I am a stateside guy.  I guess I need one of each. Addautomotive, do you know which AAZ style you have?
If there is enough interest, perhaps we could use the power of the free market place and place a group buy order  to save some cash.  I am getting my ARP parts through a friend at an auto supply house.  Cost plus 5% aint bad.  Bulk buy might be better though.

Jim

[subsonic]

I have been working with a guy at ARP to solve the Connecting Rod bolt riddle. If I send him one of each Con Rod (complete, rod cap bolt and nuts) he will go through all of the stock bolts they have in order to see which ones will be the best match, and will offer the best clamping force. This way there should be no clearence issues, and the guess work will be taken out of it. They will come with the correct ARP nuts as well. I asked if the titanium bolts would save enough weight to be worth the cost. I was told that it would not be cost effective. Oh well.  I am sending my 1.6TD Connecting Rod,  Addautomotive is going to supply a 1.9TD Connecting Rod.  Jimfoo brought up that the AAZ might have two different styles of Connecting Rods, Early and later models. Can anyone verify this?  I would like to have this project cover all the bases if possible. What about The TDI Rods?  Would there be an interest in finding a ARP match for these?
Let me know what you think.

Jim

[subsonic]

Forgot to mention, Either I can ship these from my location, I will cover shipping to ARP, ARP will ship back and then I will have to ship back to you. The other option would be to determine  individuals who own one of each type of connecting rod, and each mail our own.  I just dont want the ARP guy to get 12  1.6TD connecting rods in the mail  :shock:  :lol:  


1.6TD (MF)------------Subsonic
1.9TD (AAZ)----------Addautomotive  Need to determine which versian.
1.9TD
1.9TDI (1Z ?) --------Is that correct?
1.9TDI (??)------------

Any others?
Once a member volunteers and figures out how they want to ship, PM me and I will send you all the contact info.
This will be really good info to have up once it is complete.  Once it is complete, it will also be a nice time to post a group buy in the WTB/For Sale section.

Jim

[andy2]

I believe that the later AAZ conrod bolts will be the same as the 1z/ahu rod bolts as the rods are somewhat similar.The later aaz rod bolts are fully threaded and can not be reused and the earlier style bolts are partially threaded and are reuseable.I don't believe that there is a need for any better rod bolts on any of these 1.9 IDI/TDI engines(head and main studs yes) possibly someone else could comment??

[addautomotive]

I'll have a look at the conrods I have; I believe the engine is a 94... it was a freebie.

I'll post a pic tomorrow

[jimfoo]

I believe that the later AAZ conrod bolts will be the same as the 1z/ahu rod bolts as the rods are somewhat similar.The later aaz rod bolts are fully threaded and can not be reused and the earlier style bolts are partially threaded and are reuseable.I don't believe that there is a need for any better rod bolts on any of these 1.9 IDI/TDI engines(head and main studs yes) possibly someone else could comment??

The earlier ones are fully threaded, the later and 1Z/AHU bolts have a double shoulder to align both rod halves. The earlier ones have pins. Here is a pic of an earlier bolt. I bought the later ones first as I thought my engine was a '96.
I don't think either are supposed to be reused.

[jtanguay]

yea... i bought a 12 pt 12mm socket for the head bolts on my TDI... pull the valve cover to find out that its the opposite...!!! oh well i'll still put it to good use

[jimfoo]

Good ol tripple square. Took me a while to find what it was so that I could buy the right tool. Even then, the auto parts store guy didn't know what it was even though he had it.

[subsonic]

I was just pulling up the summit catalog and looking at the main studs 204-5402.  In the discription it says will not work with windage tray.
Anyone had this problem with the 1.6td.  Just to make sure, that is the part number for the 1.6 and not the 1.9, correct?

Jim

[Barry W]

Anyone find a good place to buy the 1.6 ARP kits?
So far I got, 251-4701 Head bolts, 204-5402 Mains.
Anyone find the ARP # for the con rod bolts?

[subsonic]

Patience grasshopper.  My Connecting Rods are enroute to ARP so they can try and find the ones with the best fit.  As soon as I know, I will post them so we can move the info to the FAQ section.

[Barry W]

Patience grasshopper.  My Connecting Rods are enroute to ARP so they can try and find the ones with the best fit.  As soon as I know, I will post them so we can move the info to the FAQ section.

 :lol:
 :wink:

[Barry W]

Unsure if this was asked before .... the part# 204-5402 says it won't fit with the windage tray, but I just bought the diesel oil pan baffle for my TD project. Does this mean I need to find another bolt kit to use with this baffle?

[foxracer1]

My friend just got some for his 1.6 TD and he used ARP G60 rod bolts.