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May 11, 2018, 01:20:50 pm

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I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
« on: May 11, 2018, 01:20:50 pm »
 I bought an mtdi pump from William Smith.
 It has a plastic cover over the fuel stop solenoid.
Here's a pic:
mtdipumpcleaner by vwfatmobile, on Flickr

 Pic of the front:
mtdipumpfront by vwfatmobile, on Flickr

How do I remove it?


Tornado red, '91 Golf 4 door,
with a re-ringed, '84 quantum, turbo diesel, MD block

Reply #1May 12, 2018, 12:33:15 am

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Re: I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2018, 12:33:15 am »
I have seen that before on a pump.  I don't know what its function is and I don't know how to remove it.  I do have confidence that you'll get it figured out, though.   :)

Reply #2May 12, 2018, 11:46:40 pm

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Re: I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2018, 11:46:40 pm »
Plastic part, plus hacksaw blade might equal removal here.

Reply #3May 17, 2018, 11:11:22 pm

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Re: I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2018, 11:11:22 pm »
Ahhh the simple solution. I was going to grab the cutoff wheel.
 My buddy ran the part number on the cover,.. I'll post it later.
 It looks like 2 bolts clamp the plastic cover onto a normal 1.6D looking stop solenoid.
 We'll see why there are 3 wires.
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with a re-ringed, '84 quantum, turbo diesel, MD block

Reply #4May 18, 2018, 12:37:33 am

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Re: I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2018, 12:37:33 am »
Just looks like a cover for the stop solenoid really.  Not really needed, three wires Eh?   Will be interesting to know what it hooks up to.

Reply #5May 18, 2018, 08:50:14 am

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Re: I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2018, 08:50:14 am »
AFAIK its the pump side component of the immobilizer. Some force and a chisel was involved when I took mine of.
'89 Mk2 AFN mTDI

Reply #6June 01, 2018, 04:54:48 pm

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Re: I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2018, 04:54:48 pm »
Hack saw worked great,.. just a regular 1-wire stop solenoid under there,.. more circuitry than I expected.
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Reply #7July 05, 2018, 01:07:55 pm

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Re: I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2018, 01:07:55 pm »
Here's where I cut it:
mtdicutplastic by vwfatmobile, on Flickr
The one bolt got cut but the other one loosened up and came out easily.

And here is the stop solenoid with the cover removed:
mtdistopsolenoid by vwfatmobile, on Flickr
Tornado red, '91 Golf 4 door,
with a re-ringed, '84 quantum, turbo diesel, MD block

Reply #8July 05, 2018, 11:10:47 pm

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Re: I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2018, 11:10:47 pm »
What was the other circuitry used for?  Any ideas? 


Reply #9July 16, 2018, 04:33:21 pm

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Re: I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2018, 04:33:21 pm »
 No, there was more circuit/chips than I expected
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Reply #10July 25, 2019, 09:40:08 am

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Re: I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
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0 460 414 136   0460414136 VE4/11F2000R509-3
REPLACING PARTS:
ORDER NUMBER    DESIGNATION    CODE    POSITION    QUANTITY
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1 463 429 300    TORX FLAT-HEAD SCREW    1463429300    10    2
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2 463 100 002    BEARING PIN    2463100002    21    4
2 460 300 005    ROLLER    2460300005    22    4
2 460 120 013    FRICTION WASHER    2460120013    23    4
1 463 103 316    ADJUSTING PIN    1463103316    24    1
1 463 120 359    RETAINING PIN    1463120359    25    1
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2 460 223 001    SEAL RING    2460223001    30    1
1 463 104 498    TIMING-DEVICE PISTON    1463104498    31    1
1 463 218 312    SLIDING PIECE    1463218312    32    1
1 460 144 302    SHIM RING    1460144302    33    1
1 464 618 934    COMPRESSION SPRING    1464618934    34    1
1 460 100 178    PLAIN WASHER    1460100178    35    1
2 460 223 001    SEAL RING    2460223001    36    1
1 465 530 901    CLOSING COVER    1465530901    37    1
1 463 414 344    TORX FILLISTER SCREW    1463414344    38    2
1 461 074 330    COVER PLATE    1461074330    39    1
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1 468 334 851    HYDRAULIC HEAD    1468334851    50    1
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   SELECTION GROUP SHIM       52    1
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1 463 370 665    FITTING    1463370665    58    4
1 463 414 312    TORX FILLISTER SCREW    1463414312    60    2
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1 467 134 686    MANIFOLD-PRESSURE COMP.    1467134686    67    1
1 463 163 150    PART LOAD GOVERNOR    1463163150    68    1
1 200 101 640    SHIM    1200101640    69    1
1 461 901 816    CONTROL LEVER    1461901816    72    1
1 463 315 310    FLANGE NUT    1463315310    75    1
   ADJUSTING SCREW       88    1
1 461 015 302    GASKET    1461015302    92    1
1 461 907 159    FULCRUM LEVER    1461907159    95    1
2 916 012 017    PLAIN WASHER,   DIN 433 - 10,5-160 HV    2916012017    103    1
1 463 452 313    SLOTTED SHOULDER SCREW    1463452313    104    2
1 460 105 307    GASKET    1460105307    105    2
1 464 613 611    COMPRESSION SPRING    1464613611    106    2
1 463 300 304    HEXAGON NUT    1463300304    107    1
1 463 590 311    GOVERNOR SHAFT    1463590311    108    1
1 460 210 313    O-RING    1460210313    109    1
1 461 030 343    SHIM PLATE,   0,95 MM    1461030343    110    1
   SELECTION GROUP SUPPORTING DISK       111    1
1 466 317 319    FLYWEIGHT ASSEMBLY    1466317319    112    1
1 460 100 370    SHIM RING    1460100370    114    1
1 460 422 324    SLIDING SLEEVE    1460422324    115    1
1 460 508 309    SEALING CAP    1460508309    116    1
1 463 203 907    SELECTION GROUP PLUG    1463203907    117    1
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1 463 461 306    SCREW PLUG    1463461306    130    1
1 460 105 306    FLAT SEAL RING    1460105306    131    1
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1 460 225 082    O-RING    1460225082    134    1
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1 463 414 305    TORX FILLISTER SCREW    1463414305    237    2
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1 461 900 627    SWITCH LEVER    1461900627    289    1
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1 460 210 322    O-RING    1460210322    392    1
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1 461 098 344    FASTENING PLATE    1461098344    443    1
1 463 433 320    WASHER-AND-SCREW ASSEMBLY    1463433320    444    2
   SELECTION GROUP SHIM       452    3
1 464 616 956    COMPRESSION SPRING    1464616956    453    1
1 463 219 304    CONTROL SPOOL    1463219304    455    1
1 460 505 308    CLOSURE CAP    1460505308    471    1
2 912 702 197    CHEESE HEAD SCREW    2912702197    472    2
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1 463 022 310    GUIDE ROD    1463022310    520    1
1 465 130 704    ASSEMBLY OF SERVICE PARTS PUMP HOUSING    1465130704    800    1
1 467 010 054    PARTS SET FLYWEIGHT    1467010054    805    1
1 460 591 313    SEALING CAP,   RED    1460591313    808    1
2 420 580 005    SEALING CAP,   RED    2420580005    809    1
1 467 010 552    PARTS SET THEFT PROTECTION    1467010552    825    1


Hello.
The black plastic part is at 184. I don't know if at 825 is the whole system.
Is that pump from a Land Rover? 0460414136?
« Last Edit: July 25, 2019, 10:12:14 am by Dino »

Reply #11August 04, 2019, 03:10:31 am

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Re: I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2019, 03:10:31 am »
 Yep, I got it from William Smith.
 In the classifieds on here.

 I have the engine now and should be putting it all together soon.
Tornado red, '91 Golf 4 door,
with a re-ringed, '84 quantum, turbo diesel, MD block

Reply #12August 04, 2019, 03:29:52 pm

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Re: I got a M-tdi pump what's the plastic cover thing?
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2019, 03:29:52 pm »
Hello.
Thank you. I saw the ad,it was bumped by Jimbote. Thank you all.
I'll follow your conversion.

 

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