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Reply #45February 24, 2017, 10:37:55 pm

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« Reply #45 on: February 24, 2017, 10:37:55 pm »
I ended up buying a gt2052.  It was recommended by a couple of people and seems to fit my requirements.  I hope it works but now I need to find some injectors.  I don't want smoke at all.  Where I boat if i was blowing black smoke across the river it would cause a bad reaction from other river users.  If anyone has any larger injectors for sale let me know.

Matt
« Last Edit: February 25, 2017, 12:33:21 pm by LabradorSteak »

Reply #46March 02, 2017, 04:20:30 pm

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« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2017, 04:20:30 pm »
The injection pump I have is  marked

ERR 6700
0 460 414 136
Where can I find more information about this pump?
Rebuild kit etc.

Thanks, Matt

Reply #47March 02, 2017, 08:27:56 pm

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« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2017, 08:27:56 pm »
The GT2052 should work fine. Even with bigger injectors you can keep the smoke levels quite reasonable by avoiding slamming the accelerator all the way open, ease in to it a bit instead so the turbo has time to spool up.

As to your pump, the ER6700 is the Land Rover part number. The 0 460 414 136 is the Bosch part number, that's the one you'll need to get a seal kit.

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Reply #48March 11, 2017, 05:22:29 pm

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« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2017, 05:22:29 pm »
I am looking for a good place to send my injection pump to get rebuilt or just gone through. Does anyone have any suggestions?  I dont know that proximity makes a difference but I am in moab, Utah.

Pm me or reply here. Thanks, Matt.

Reply #49March 13, 2017, 10:22:21 am

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« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2017, 10:22:21 am »
Dieselmaken ab...
the guy that jetmug sent his stuff for the land speed record, I think his name is Gorren

Reply #50March 29, 2017, 07:04:34 pm

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« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2017, 07:04:34 pm »
I want to say try to rebuild it yourself as it is the goal of this forum.
If you are methodic it will be easy, it just depends if you just want to change seals or if you want pump tune too to fit your engine.

For black smoke, you can get  large amount of power without smoke using a custom lda (boost pin). For exemple, on my setup, no smoke at all off boost, and little amount of smoke on boost with 1.8 bars (approx 25-26 psi) wich is the boost limit of your new turbo.

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Reply #51July 04, 2017, 12:49:56 am

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« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2017, 12:49:56 am »
I am finally working on the engine.  I welded up an exhaust manifold adapter so I can fit a water cooled exhaust from a bbc to the engine and I made an adapter for a turbo to the exhaust.  I steam cleaned the engine and mounted the rover injection pump. 

Right now i am trying to figure out how to find out how you determine when the pump is fueling the #1 injector.  Then I will set it to 1.45mm  I can't remember but i do remember finding the info on here.  I just have to look. 

I will post some pictures when I figure out how to again.  (I was using photo bucket)

If anyone has a simple way to find when the pump is firing the #1 injector let me know or point me to the article which shows me.

thanks,  Matt. 
« Last Edit: July 04, 2017, 12:56:41 am by LabradorSteak »

Reply #52July 04, 2017, 11:14:22 am

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Re: MTDI in a boat
« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2017, 11:14:22 am »
The keyway on the IP shaft points to the port that will fire next.

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Reply #53July 04, 2017, 12:50:14 pm

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« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2017, 12:50:14 pm »
Awesome, thanks.   I knew there was a simple way to tell.

Matt.

Reply #54July 06, 2017, 12:46:03 am

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« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2017, 12:46:03 am »
Is it possible to run a tachometer off of the wires from the 3rd injector?

Matt

Reply #55July 06, 2017, 02:19:37 am

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« Reply #55 on: July 06, 2017, 02:19:37 am »
Is it possible to run a tachometer off of the wires from the 3rd injector?

Matt
Anything is "possible"... It'll definitely generate a signal that should correlate with RPM. It's an inductive cool with the injector needle essentially bouncing inside of it. You will probably need some sort of signal converter to be able to spit out a signal that can be used by a tach.

I'm doing something like that using the crank position sensor on my AHU. It fires off 4 pulses per revolution and is likewise a magnetic inductive pickup which won't generate a signal that can be used by an actual tachometer.

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Reply #56July 06, 2017, 09:55:25 pm

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« Reply #56 on: July 06, 2017, 09:55:25 pm »
Thanks again...I am wondering if I should start a new thread for each of these simple, unrelated questions. It might be easier for others to look up.  If I should then let me know and I will.

I am trying to remove the hard coolant pipe from under the injection pump.  Is there a trick or do I just pull once all of the bolts are removed?

Matt.


Reply #57July 06, 2017, 10:01:00 pm

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« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2017, 10:01:00 pm »
Eh, we aren't that picky. The topic is "MTDI in a boat" and this is all super relevant!

Coolant pipe is usually attached with two tabs. Depending on your exact model there will be various other things clipped to it - VW used it and it's studs as a general mounting place for wire harnesses and the like.

Usual stuff applies for trying to get an old rubber hose off of a steel pipe... It's gonna stick and be a PITA, if it comes off easy consider yourself to be having a good day. Depending on why you're pulling it I'd consider what other rubber in the region looked nasty and do it too.


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Reply #58July 07, 2017, 01:25:46 am

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« Reply #58 on: July 07, 2017, 01:25:46 am »
I was planning on removing the coolant pipe because it was interfering with my turbo placement and I don't need the end that goes to the heater core and the egr.  I ended up cutting it off in place and welding the end shut.

My next issue is finding a flywheel that will accept something like this where my drive line can be mounted to the flywheel.  I have a dual mass flywheel that doesn't seem like it will work so I was going to look for a single mass/solid one that I could have a machinist drill the holes in for me.


That is not a picture of my engine.  It is just one I found to illustrate what I am looking for.

Matt
« Last Edit: July 07, 2017, 01:37:10 am by LabradorSteak »

Reply #59July 07, 2017, 01:35:36 am

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« Reply #59 on: July 07, 2017, 01:35:36 am »
This is my engine so far.




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