Extreme white smoke on fresh frankenengine trouble-VIDEO INCLUDED

[RabbitJockey]

you haven't commented on the condition of the block and head that you used.  that seems like a lot of advance, but i guess if it works it works.

[theman53]

Running at 1.40 or more means you have more issues. I have less compression than your setup and run .94mm. At 1.40 the pressure will rise in the precup to the point it will fail much sooner. Fix your engine and head.

[vanbcguy]

Running at 1.40 or more means you have more issues. I have less compression than your setup and run .94mm. At 1.40 the pressure will rise in the precup to the point it will fail much sooner. Fix your engine and head.

Or his pump isn't actually a VW pump.  Entirely possible.

[fatmobile]

What's the braking pressure on the injectors?

[golfmk1tdr]

you haven't commented on the condition of the block and head that you used.  that seems like a lot of advance, but i guess if it works it works.

To be honest I wish I did more investigation on both parts, both were lifted from good runing engines, both looked fine but I did no measuring since I had no tools and no time to spare. 
And advance doesn't work, it was great on warm engine but on cold engine it hardly start and sound painful. 

Running at 1.40 or more means you have more issues. I have less compression than your setup and run .94mm. At 1.40 the pressure will rise in the precup to the point it will fail much sooner. Fix your engine and head.

These issues should show with compression test, right?

Because I plan to test it as soon as possible, I still believe this engine should be fine internally.

What are compression numbers to be expected from healty frankenengine?

What's the braking pressure on the injectors?

I had them tested but after compression test I plan to install AAZ injectors, I can get them for cheap so it is logical next step if compr. is ok.

Is it possible that mixing TD and NA injectors would cause these issues? I believe they are all 1.6 TD injectors but it's kind of hard to tell them apart and there is tiny possibility that they got mixed up...

Running at 1.40 or more means you have more issues. I have less compression than your setup and run .94mm. At 1.40 the pressure will rise in the precup to the point it will fail much sooner. Fix your engine and head.

Or his pump isn't actually a VW pump.  Entirely possible.

This pump was running on 1.6TD great before, is it possible standing for half a year caused some issue? I never quite understood when people say it could be 180°out of sync, isn't that impossible if you measure by clock?

[vanbcguy]

What was it timed at on the 1.6?

Yes, an NA injector mixed in would definitely cause some weird running conditions. NA injectors pop earlier than TD ones which in turn advances the timing. That's why NA cars have less base timing. In your case though things seem to be going the other way.

Re: being 180 out... The dial indicator just tells you the height of the plunger. It doesn't know which port is going to fire next.

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[theman53]

A compression test will not show peak cylinder pressure, fuel is required to get that.

You should easily have over 380 psi in every hole if the engine is healthy.

[ORCoaster]

being 180 out can be quickly determined by noting the keyway position in the shaft of the IP,  if proper it points to 10 oclock.  Or you can determine with a crack of the injector line at the back of the pump.  TDC should be delivering it to #1. 

[RabbitJockey]

compression and leakdown test would really help to figure this out at this point.  also figuring out your injectors, that could definitely contribute to white white smoke and that weird idle of yours.

[mtrans]

being 180 out can be quickly determined by noting the keyway position in the shaft of the IP,  if proper it points to 10 oclock.  Or you can determine with a crack of the injector line at the back of the pump.  TDC should be delivering it to #1. 

X2,if nobody open IP

[golfmk1tdr]

UPDATE:

Tested when cyl. get fuel, it's no problem there.
Got a friendly retired mechanic to test my compression, one cly. really is bit low which causes one missing hole while cold.
But he claims it should still run fine in the summer.

He also insists that this is not the source of my problem,
saying I have either air in my IP or other problems with my IP.

So tomorrow first thing in morning I am putting it all back together and will try to flood the pump first, then if that still doesn't work I am installing my other pump.
Pulling engine apart is still last option in my list, will report end result when I have it.
Thank you all once more.

[fatmobile]

You have clear fuel lines to and from the pump now right?
Even clear lines between the injectors will tell you things.

[vanbcguy]

It'd be a worthwhile exercise to swap the pump no matter what, you know how to set timing already so you're 90% of the way there. If you have one pop it in there and let's see what happens!

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[RabbitJockey]

do you remember the compression numbers?

[golfmk1tdr]

update 
changed the pump and fuel lines (there were some bubbles on return line) no difference.

Then I realized I don't really know what the actual reading was, since the guy who tested it said ''it should still run in summer'' and that was all I wanted to hear. Measure of course was in BAR instead psi.

3x15, 1x13 bar, that is around 220 and 190 psi.  This was dry, cold engine measure so it really is a bit higher warm, but still, definitely, this engine in not healthy enough to eat 2BAR of boost. I am shocked it still started on 2,3rd crank.

Now I am cursing myself badly I didn't pressure him to repeat the test wet, with squirt of oil, so at least I would know if I have problem in the bottom or the head.

Will report here with any updates, but between school, work and zero'd bank account I am definitely giving this whole thing a rest for at least another (horrible) month.

I will be searching for cheap NA engine, then I am slapping my turbo on it and turning boost down to 1bar and IP back to stock. Frankensteining will have to wait.
But before that I will definitely be buying compression tester. I still can't believe I bough lemon engine, and all could be prevented with simple 50buck tool.

Lesson from this? Never buying engine or car without compression test in advance, never f#&%n again.

Thank you all once more.