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[theman53]

mine is a 15 I believe. There really isn't a "hit" with the vnt of mine currently. It is basically, just boost. No waiting, just boosting. The wastegated turbo I have boosts slower, so when it comes on it "hits" harder, where the vnt is pretty much full torque/boost the entire time.

[Gizmoman]

Thanks,
The VNT-17 while expensive, sounds like the right choice for what I'm trying to achieve.
Can't seem to find one except from Bora parts, and I'm not finding good reviews when I do a bit of checking on them.

[RabbitJockey]

to me i would go the easier/cheaper route and use an he211w.  thats a tough little turbo and should be easy to adapt to your current manifold.

[Gizmoman]

to me i would go the easier/cheaper route and use an he211w.  thats a tough little turbo and should be easy to adapt to your current manifold.

I found a lightly used one posted by Alcad for a friend.

500 bucks if it's still for sale. Well see.

I wish I understood compressor maps better. It would be great to compare the K-14 with the he211 and the VNT-17. If anyone has maps for these, please post

[bbob203]

he can get one drop shipped from holset factory for about 600ish I asked about getting one a few months ago.

[Gizmoman]

he can get one drop shipped from holset factory for about 600ish I asked about getting one a few months ago.

Cool, I found him here using the search - I'll shoot off an email and get his thoughts.

[theman53]

Sorry Gizmoman, I thought you knew of the availability. That is why I suggested it. He should still have a post in the for sale section on the new ones IIRC.

[Gizmoman]

Sorry Gizmoman, I thought you knew of the availability. That is why I suggested it. He should still have a post in the for sale section on the new ones IIRC.

No worries Mr.

 I'd sure like to know what to expect in the way of performance. Something that would help me relate to the K-14 as that's the only reference I have at the moment.

Knowing where in the RPM range the boost would start (for my engine) and what kind of RWHP I might have at 3200 is info I'd love to have before pulling the trigger. I asked Alcaid but no response yet. I'll bet he gets tons of "silly" questions like that - what a pain .
That same data on the K-14 would be sweet as well.

EDIT/Update:

Alcaid responded and already answered most of my questions. Very helpful!
If anyone has some Maps for the K-14 and HE211W, please post them or drop a link. I'll do my best to try and figure out what they actually mean

Thanks,

[theman53]

With your work done I would think you would be at or above 160hp at the wheels, at 3,200 I would guess in the 120 range. It will all depend on your fueling with the turbo. I don't have a map for the 211 but I do the 221 which is almost the same turbo from what Alcaid says. The K14 I haven't seen a map for, but if anyone has it is probably Rabbit Jockey. I would estimate 1/2 the capability out of the k14 as the 211w...again, tons of ifs and buts, but I did a lot of research when I bought the 221w off Alcaid but it is a little different turbo than the 211w.
I will search my thread for the map I had.

[RabbitJockey]

i think its hard to say with out someone using the turbo with a simialr setup to yours.  but from what alcaid had said it spooled very quickly on a 1.6 engine with 1.9 head, no port work on the head either, and made 173whp on that car as well, so with your van having more displacement it should have no problem spooling the turbo, and peak power would depend on how much boost you want to run.

[theman53]

Page 21 of my Round 2 thread in my sig has Alcaid telling the differences in some turbos



The red dots are my 45trim T3 that exploded 2 times and the biggest one is the 221w that is on the car now. IIRC the 221w that I have flows mid thirties in lb/min and the 211w flows almost 30 lb/min.

[theman53]

i think its hard to say with out someone using the turbo with a simialr setup to yours.  but from what alcaid had said it spooled very quickly on a 1.6 engine with 1.9 head, no port work on the head either, and made 173whp on that car as well, so with your van having more displacement it should have no problem spooling the turbo, and peak power would depend on how much boost you want to run.

I often wonder what the 221 would do bolted onto my ALH. It spools almost as fast as the VNT, but with less displacement. I bet the quicker spooling 211 on a 1.9 with great fueling it would reach 20 psi before 2,000 rpm

[Gizmoman]

Sounds like I can't go wrong.

Hmmmmmmmm

Sleep on it one more night. . .

Thanks so much for the feedback, your opinions do matter

[Rock3tman]

I'd get Libbydiesel's input - he's the best source of VNT vs. Wastegate +/-around...I've got a VNT-15 from IDparts on a mostly stock 1.6TD. - - - it was $840 IIRC (ALH standard turbo w/ integrated exhaust manifold).   Also a mech vane mechanism homebrewed.

[Gizmoman]

I'd get Libbydiesel's input - he's the best source of VNT vs. Wastegate +/-around...I've got a VNT-15 from IDparts on a mostly stock 1.6TD. - - - it was $840 IIRC (ALH standard turbo w/ integrated exhaust manifold).   Also a mech vane mechanism homebrewed.

libby's already told me several times that a VNT-17 is the best for what I'm trying to accomplish. He's also well aware of the intricacies of the linkage that come with it.
Currently though, I simply can't find one for sale and the 211W is 1/2 the price and less fidling.

Wouldn't mind if he "tapped in" though