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Reply #15January 08, 2014, 04:21:13 pm

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2014, 04:21:13 pm »
I looked at my gasket

 and it is not notches.......
 there are three circular holes.

Any thoughts?
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Reply #16January 08, 2014, 05:02:47 pm

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2014, 05:02:47 pm »
I goes by magic numbers more than notch, yours equates to a 3 notch then.

Reply #17January 08, 2014, 05:44:30 pm

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2014, 05:44:30 pm »
dose it make that big of a difference? I am just wondering cause my car had a 3 hole on it so that is what I put back on.

Reply #18January 08, 2014, 05:49:37 pm

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2014, 05:49:37 pm »
The number is important... Too thin and pistons hit stuff. Too thick and you sacrifice compression.

Reply #19January 08, 2014, 05:55:00 pm

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2014, 05:55:00 pm »
Holes = metal head gasket = probably not original on IDI?
It is also not common to fail, so you will want to pressure test head as well.
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Reply #20January 08, 2014, 10:35:08 pm

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2014, 10:35:08 pm »
So you think my head gasket was replaced once already?
Due to holes... not notches.......    "buenos notches.. :-\"
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Reply #21January 08, 2014, 11:05:03 pm

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2014, 11:05:03 pm »
It is almost inconceivable to me that there is an IDI still running with the original  headgasket, so yes.
I'm not sure if any of the 1.6 cars  left the factory with a metal gasket, I've certainly never seen one.

Reply #22January 08, 2014, 11:29:31 pm

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2014, 11:29:31 pm »
Metal?
where is the gasket metal?

Mine is metal.. not sure what you mean by metal???

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Reply #23January 08, 2014, 11:33:12 pm

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2014, 11:33:12 pm »
OEM's not metal?
What were/are they????
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Reply #24January 08, 2014, 11:42:59 pm

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2014, 11:42:59 pm »
They were OEM on 1.9L AAZ engines..

Google man, try it out ;) it works wonders.

Reply #25January 09, 2014, 02:11:26 am

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2014, 02:11:26 am »
AAZ is a rare bird in these parts, and bros sig implies a 1.6.

Some engines use a fiber gasket with a few metal rings, and notches to indicate thickness.  Newer ones use a multi layer steel gasket with a viton coating and holes to indicate thickness.

Reply #26January 09, 2014, 11:19:14 am

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2014, 11:19:14 am »
The number is important... Too thin and pistons hit stuff. Too thick and you sacrifice compression.

The compression difference is not really of issue.  The other two factors are 'squish and quench'.  Squish establishes the correct turbulence, again probably not an issue on a pre-chamber diesel.  Of particular issue, tho, in a TD is quench where a significant amount of heat is transferred from the piston crown to the more cooled cylinder head.  Increasing the space between piston crown and head at TDC will have negatively affect quench and cause the piston crowns to run hotter.

Reply #27January 09, 2014, 02:00:12 pm

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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2014, 02:00:12 pm »
That is more of what I was asking. I know to you need to chave the clearence for the piston to head but I was just wondering what the performance implications would be of running a three whan you should be running a 1 or 2 if any.

Reply #28January 09, 2014, 04:10:31 pm

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2014, 04:10:31 pm »
slower, harder to start and less efficient, more polluting and hotter pistons, with possible added safety margin against lifting the head if you are  running 3x factory boost level?

Reply #29February 14, 2014, 06:55:59 pm

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Re: How to determine notches regarding head gasket type
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2014, 06:55:59 pm »
The number is important... Too thin and pistons hit stuff. Too thick and you sacrifice compression.

The compression difference is not really of issue.  The other two factors are 'squish and quench'.  Squish establishes the correct turbulence, again probably not an issue on a pre-chamber diesel.  Of particular issue, tho, in a TD is quench where a significant amount of heat is transferred from the piston crown to the more cooled cylinder head.  Increasing the space between piston crown and head at TDC will have negatively affect quench and cause the piston crowns to run hotter.
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