Author Topic: Help identifying a part?  (Read 2764 times)

September 28, 2008, 06:34:03 pm

Jettage1

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 202
  • Personal Text
    Past VWs: 80 Scirocco S, 90 GTI, 00 Passat GLX
Help identifying a part?
« on: September 28, 2008, 06:34:03 pm »
This is on my '92 ECO Diesel...

The part in question is a small plastic copper-lined tube with a 2-wire connector.  Located in-line on the rubber hose that connects the fresh air intake duct to the "PCV" valve on the valve cover.  

I did do some looking in my Bentley but so far have come up empty.  Anyone know what this sensor does?  Maybe something to do with air temp???  

Thanks in advance!

Steve
Steve

92 Jetta EcoDiesel
     pumped by Giles...powered by Frybrid...functional by dumb luck

Reply #1September 28, 2008, 07:23:33 pm

Vincent Waldon

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 3255
    • My collection of HOWTOs
Help identifying a part?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2008, 07:23:33 pm »
Your engine will look a little different, but do you mean "A" in this picture ?



If so, it's a small in-line heater:

http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1674&highlight=crankcase+heater

http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3156&highlight=crankcase+heater
Vince

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
2001 silver TDI Jetta Malone Stage 1.5 , 2001 blue TDI Jetta SBIII 216s Malone Stage 3, 1970 Bay Window bus

Gone but not forgotten: 1969/1971 Beetles, 1969/1974 Westies, 1979 Rabbit, 1986 TD Jetta, 1992 gas Jetta, 1994 TD Jetta

Reply #2September 29, 2008, 04:42:22 am

Jettage1

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 202
  • Personal Text
    Past VWs: 80 Scirocco S, 90 GTI, 00 Passat GLX
Help identifying a part?
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2008, 04:42:22 am »
Yes!  It is similar to the "A" in your pic and the links you attached make sense.  

Thanks Vince!  You were spot on.

Steve
Steve

92 Jetta EcoDiesel
     pumped by Giles...powered by Frybrid...functional by dumb luck

Reply #3September 29, 2008, 11:34:19 am

Op-Ivy

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 513
Help identifying a part?
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2008, 11:34:19 am »
I wonder if that thing ever goes. I think I will check it today.

Reply #4September 29, 2008, 03:52:48 pm

Jettage1

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 202
  • Personal Text
    Past VWs: 80 Scirocco S, 90 GTI, 00 Passat GLX
Help identifying a part?
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2008, 03:52:48 pm »
I don't know...  The Bentley manual doesn't seem to even mention it.  Is it always on?  Guess I'll do some checking with a voltmeter...
Steve

92 Jetta EcoDiesel
     pumped by Giles...powered by Frybrid...functional by dumb luck

Reply #5December 08, 2013, 07:21:11 pm

vwsb1974

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 81
Re: Help identifying a part?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2013, 07:21:11 pm »
I just bought a 91 echo and was wondering the same thing the links don't work anymore does anyone have any more info on this part and why you would need to heat the crank case fumes?  ???

Reply #6December 08, 2013, 07:31:48 pm

libbydiesel

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 3399
Re: Help identifying a part?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2013, 07:31:48 pm »
There is a pressure drop as the crankcase fumes enter the intake.  The crankcase is mildly pressurized and intake between the filter and compressor is a negative pressure area.  There is also a fair amount of water vapor in the crank vent fumes as one of the combustion byproducts.  Just as compressing a gas will make it hotter, decompressing it will make it colder.  That drop in the temperature of the crankcase fumes as they enter the intake can cause the water vapor to freeze in colder weather sending ice crystals through your turbo.  The little heater warms those gases enough to avoid that situation.

Reply #7December 09, 2013, 04:47:38 am

vwsb1974

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 81
Re: Help identifying a part?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2013, 04:47:38 am »
Good info do you know. How I check it to see if it still is working after 23 years. Also I was wondering if anyone is using a oil can for the PCV fumes insted of reintroducing them back to the engine? I do this on my 7.3 in my F250. The car I bought has 230K on it, and a bit of blow-by would it hurt to do this? 

Reply #8December 09, 2013, 05:48:29 am

Gizmoman

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 1301
  • Personal Text
    AAZ 1.9, HE 200 Turbo, 82 Vanagon, AAP 5 speed
Re: Help identifying a part?
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2013, 05:48:29 am »
Plenty of info on that, just do a search here or Google "blow-by catch can". A few have posted issues with the engine running away as an incorrect install can suck oil. There's a fix for that as well.
Jim W - 82 Vanagon Westy - AAZ 1.9, Mild head port, Cummins Holset HE200WE turbo, Frozen Boost WAIC, 10" Charge-pipe intake, Ball bearing IM shaft, Giles Pump, 215/70R16, AAP 5 speed Trans. 22 lbs max boost

Reply #9December 09, 2013, 02:20:22 pm

CrazyAndy

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 739
Re: Help identifying a part?
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2013, 02:20:22 pm »
Good info do you know. How I check it to see if it still is working after 23 years. Also I was wondering if anyone is using a oil can for the PCV fumes insted of reintroducing them back to the engine? I do this on my 7.3 in my F250. The car I bought has 230K on it, and a bit of blow-by would it hurt to do this? 

Plug it up to 12v and see if the copper gets war, I'd think.

As for the catch can, you can run one and still have the PCV gasses re-enter the intake hose.  Just get a catch can that has a filtered outlet; that way your PCV gases stay in the tank and the air doesn't get dumped into the bay to dirty things up.  Some even have one-way valved returns to the crankcase; search "Provent catch can" for more info on that; it's a nice piece.