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Reply #30November 07, 2013, 11:18:35 am

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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2013, 11:18:35 am »
us td numbers very low vs na...

diesels were 85,86,few 87, 89, 90, 91

td 85,86,few 87, no golfs i know were

eco was 90,91,92 and again no golfs...

for that also.. i cannot say ive ever seen a stock big window golf diesel either...

Reply #31November 12, 2013, 10:02:53 am

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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2013, 10:02:53 am »
well lucas got the one that was in cleveland... yea one was here...

some miscommunications.. sadly.. they need to have told me things before the transaction.. been seeing ideas and such... and lucas really is set up for mock test fitting.. just i do not think the 2 of them knew they need to use eachother..

i saw pic of aaz 2 piece style pully mocked to the rover hub.. i think it will work.. :P i just do not know yet who has it.. :P my emails were gotten after...

but ideas of exchange mounts, pre modded w/core charges and pully system that will work are also gettiing thought of.. so the swap time is more bolt on now vs need to do.. will be extra charge type of option.. but he making shopping list

Reply #32November 12, 2013, 11:04:09 am

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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2013, 11:04:09 am »
I have a spare Rover hub if anyone wants it for experimenting...

The offset of the Rover hub is definitely different from the ALH hub.  I'd imagine the AAZ hub is probably the same as the ALH hub.

BTW regarding brackets - an individual on the TDIClub forum is trying to put together a kit to fit large snout pumps on small snout engines - includes a modified bracket and a shaved down pulley to fit inside the stock timing cover:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=399537

He hasn't included the back plate of the timing cover though.  And his price is a bit on the high side...
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Reply #33November 12, 2013, 12:58:02 pm

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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2013, 12:58:02 pm »
 Bosch part number is
0460414080, or last 3 digits 099,098,069,136,194,205

These are some of the part #s to the pumps you are looking for.

Reply #34November 12, 2013, 02:05:21 pm

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« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2013, 02:05:21 pm »
yea i got way less in my custom pully and the bracket mod.. and as i told the guy.. doing it via core with only a little profit on the part.. does take time to do so he needs something.. but my thought on price way less.. and more of a i can have it now vs i can get mine machined tomarrow aspect.. if a normal machine shop is 20-50$ exceeding that too much = fail...  and i had $100 in my custom gear.. and vs trying to find  mk4 style hub was well worth it..

Reply #35November 12, 2013, 06:49:54 pm

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« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2013, 06:49:54 pm »
Yeah that was kind of my thought too.  I dropped my bracket, pulley and timing cover off at a shop on Friday, should be ready this afternoon.  Didn't actually ask about price but I bet it's less than $175.

On the Rover pumps - the ones with a built-in TPS are fantastic if you ever plan on doing anything VNT-wise... I think that's the -099 version.
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Reply #36November 16, 2013, 09:09:49 am

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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2013, 09:09:49 am »
I didn't have my pulley shaved down, as I don't run upper covers. My shop charged me $65 to bore the bracket.

The guy on TDI Club wanted $125 + core.

-Todd

Reply #37November 21, 2013, 12:08:17 pm

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« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2013, 12:08:17 pm »
so how does 450 shipped sound?? they are comming off running engines so not topen to enviroment..

speak up.. pm me your email so i can pass it onto the guy..

Reply #38November 21, 2013, 12:41:13 pm

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« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2013, 12:41:13 pm »
The offset of the Rover hub is definitely different from the ALH hub.  I'd imagine the AAZ hub is probably the same as the ALH hub.

The offset on the AAZ hub may be the same, but the shaft diameter is smaller and so the AAZ hub and ALH hub do not interchange.  The Rover hub offset is wrong as well as the hole alignment and so it won't work without a fair bit of machining. 

Easiest/cheapest is to get a core ALH pump off eBay, pull the hub and sell the core on eBay for pretty much what you bought it for...

Reply #39November 29, 2013, 05:17:10 pm

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« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2013, 05:17:10 pm »
since i was banned on the day i had bumped this... i have not heard from anyone.. need to speak up.. guy wants to come back to the us soon...

Reply #40December 08, 2013, 11:10:45 am

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« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2013, 11:10:45 am »
What about complete rover motors?  I have a Disco I that I'd love to swap, but I can't justify the cost of adapters, etc... If I could find a complete rover setup, it would make my year.

Reply #41December 08, 2013, 12:50:41 pm

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« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2013, 12:50:41 pm »
the motors are apparently junk hence why so many in yards in europe.
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Reply #42December 10, 2013, 08:42:45 pm

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« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2013, 08:42:45 pm »
the motors are apparently junk hence why so many in yards in europe.

I always wondered why I see them so cheap on ebay.uk....now I know. Makes sense, I guess.
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Reply #43December 18, 2013, 11:26:50 am

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« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2013, 11:26:50 am »
the disco 2.5 tdi 200 and 300 are not junk thay can be pron to HG blowing , i have seen some at 300tho i have 2 about 200tho and still run strong and start first crack of the key , there are bigger motor than the vw 1.9diesel  ,124hp ish stock  , some do go wrong but a beter motor than the vw PD motor that are real junk what was vw thinking with the PD  a backward step from the 1.9 tdi ,
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Reply #44December 20, 2013, 05:01:16 pm

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« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2013, 05:01:16 pm »
he is back from the uk and has 3... pm me for contact info