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September 25, 2013, 09:11:48 pm

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So I almost bought a turbo.. 45 trim OM617 T3.. NOW HOLSET
« on: September 25, 2013, 09:11:48 pm »
I am inquiring what manifold I will need to make this work. As soon as you google anything to do with Mercedes, only w116 and w123 stuff comes up.. NOTHING TO DO WITH ITS TURBO..

Apparently Mercedes used three flanges on their old stuff pre-1995 ish.



T3 Flange
Used on most Mercedes 3L/3.5L engines til 1995.
T25 Flange
Used on 2.5L engines til 1995.
Late 90s MB Flange
I'm not sure what the real name for this is. At some point in the late 90s MB switched to this for the OM606 turbo and the Sprinter OM602. It is triangular, with a round opening in the middle.

This .45 trim Garrett T3 I am pretty sure has a t3 exhaust flange on it.. of course the ebay ad says nothing and the pictures don't show it.


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Reply #1September 25, 2013, 09:24:16 pm

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Re: So I bought a turbo.. 45 trim OM617 T3
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2013, 09:24:16 pm »
If it is off the om617 I would say you are probably looking at the T3 flange. Ask the seller the question and see. When did they start doing the T25 sized?

Reply #2September 25, 2013, 10:08:53 pm

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Re: So I bought a turbo.. 45 trim OM617 T3
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2013, 10:08:53 pm »
T3 Flange
Used on most Mercedes 3L/3.5L engines til 1995.
T25 Flange
Used on2.5L engines til 1995.

Reply #3September 26, 2013, 07:38:32 am

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Re: So I bought a turbo.. 45 trim OM617 T3
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2013, 07:38:32 am »
Yeah ask the seller or wait until it shows up

Reply #4September 26, 2013, 08:27:53 am

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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2013, 08:27:53 am »
yeah t3 flange, down pipe bolt pattern is the same as vw too once u remove that vband flex part
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Reply #5September 26, 2013, 08:30:43 am

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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2013, 08:30:43 am »
Cool. I would keep the v band...soooo much easier to take apart.

Reply #6September 26, 2013, 08:50:24 pm

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Re: So I bought a turbo.. 45 trim OM617 T3
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2013, 08:50:24 pm »
I'l be needing to make a new downpipe.. so I  figured I would stick with a v band on the down pipe to turbo connection. And do a brace back to the block or whatevs lol.

Reply #7September 26, 2013, 10:40:55 pm

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Re: So I bought a turbo.. 45 trim OM617 T3
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2013, 10:40:55 pm »
Uh oh... ALCAID has got me thinking now... DAMN HIM ;)

Holset HE211W..



Reply #8September 27, 2013, 05:21:07 am

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Re: So I bought a turbo.. 45 trim OM617 T3
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2013, 05:21:07 am »
I'm doing it!
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Reply #9September 27, 2013, 07:43:16 am

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Re: So I bought a turbo.. 45 trim OM617 T3
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2013, 07:43:16 am »
That is where I read it! HAAH

Reply #10September 27, 2013, 08:39:11 am

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Re: So I bought a turbo.. 45 trim OM617 T3
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2013, 08:39:11 am »
Depends what happens with the HE221W on the IDI if I am going to use it or my 2256v on the M TDI jeep. I have almost a year before deciding and I already have the 2256v so that is what I am going to do unless this holset is too amazing to not have on the Jeep. Jeep is a heavy turd compared to our cars though and that is why I am thinking quicker spool of the vnt. I plan to have rods with the girdle and such so big turbo won't be an issue I hope.

Reply #11September 27, 2013, 04:31:00 pm

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Re: So I bought a turbo.. 45 trim OM617 T3
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2013, 04:31:00 pm »
The holset seems like a complete no brainer to me.. really.

Thr T3 is antiquated.. and for money spent I would be close to the same amount to do either. So I am going to save my pennies and get a Holset HE211W.

Heck. Yes.

Reply #12September 27, 2013, 05:42:14 pm

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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2013, 05:42:14 pm »
$600 thru alcaid straight from the factory.
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Reply #13September 27, 2013, 08:46:29 pm

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2013, 08:46:29 pm »
For the price and what u get the holset is an amazing deal.  Anything comparable from garrett would be atleast 1000,  and tho comparable i dont think it would compare
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Reply #14September 28, 2013, 12:14:15 am

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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2013, 12:14:15 am »
as in garrett being better?
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