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August 10, 2013, 01:06:29 am

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so as im sure many here know the BAE setup, just a simple but awesome non intercooled setup. problem is that im running into power loss when it hot out and i drive for a bit.

ive been debating adding an intercooler, but with the design of this kit doesnt really allow for that as the turbo outlet and intake inlet are about 1 inch from each other. ive also debated a meth injection setup to help keep these EGTs cooler and keep the power on these hot days, but i cant find much info on people running meth on IDIs.

any hints or ideas would be great, im just getting sick of the EGTs im hitting, and sick of the powerloss when things heat up.

i can tell how much more fun this thing would be when i have a cold day or night, this thing screams under those conditions.

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Reply #1August 10, 2013, 01:12:42 am

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Re: BAE Turbo Kit - Non Intercooled - Loss Of Power When Heat Soaked
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2013, 01:12:42 am »
Damn nice car. Ditch the intake and problem solved on intake routing.

The whole setup was originally a gas car thing anyway right? Non-intercooled and a few psi was no big thang to them! lol

Reply #2August 10, 2013, 01:25:18 am

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Re: BAE Turbo Kit - Non Intercooled - Loss Of Power When Heat Soaked
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2013, 01:25:18 am »
i have a gasser intake that has had all of the ports closed up and a gutted g60 tb on the end for 2.5" piping and coupler.

i must just be crazy but there isnt much room for an intercooler, if anything ill have to find a small one to sit on the passenger side pocket by the alt.

Reply #3August 10, 2013, 01:29:57 am

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Reply #4August 10, 2013, 01:36:51 am

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Re: BAE Turbo Kit - Non Intercooled - Loss Of Power When Heat Soaked
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2013, 01:36:51 am »
Also, I am sure that EXTREMELY hot air intake system is really killing it for you too. It HAS to go. The worst spot for an air filter on a performance build.

Reply #5August 10, 2013, 03:19:21 am

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Re: BAE Turbo Kit - Non Intercooled - Loss Of Power When Heat Soaked
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2013, 03:19:21 am »
mine i played with from 96-02 was same thing....

it only makes max 7psi.. no ic needed... not enough boost to require it.. not like there is a wastegate... yea it way oversized... but man when i thits it pushes you in the seat unlike a stock td..

Reply #6August 10, 2013, 08:02:58 am

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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2013, 08:02:58 am »
Rerouting your turbo intake will help dramatically.  U can do water meth easily woth an pld windshield washer bottle and pump and inject it preturbo with a carb jet or what ever u want
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Reply #7August 10, 2013, 09:40:00 am

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Re: BAE Turbo Kit - Non Intercooled - Loss Of Power When Heat Soaked
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2013, 09:40:00 am »
Where is your timing belt cover and oil pressure sender at? Also agree with the guys saying relocate the air cleaner.

Reply #8August 10, 2013, 01:37:01 pm

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Re: BAE Turbo Kit - Non Intercooled - Loss Of Power When Heat Soaked
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2013, 01:37:01 pm »
mine i played with from 96-02 was same thing....

it only makes max 7psi.. no ic needed... not enough boost to require it.. not like there is a wastegate... yea it way oversized... but man when i thits it pushes you in the seat unlike a stock td..

Mine actually boosts quite a bit higher, as a .22 rayjay off a later arkay turbo. i can hit 12ish :)


as for the air filter relocation, i agree it needs to be moved. just undecided as to where right now. thinking the raintray but i don't want to cut into the car.

Reply #9August 10, 2013, 01:39:34 pm

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Re: BAE Turbo Kit - Non Intercooled - Loss Of Power When Heat Soaked
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2013, 01:39:34 pm »
Where is your timing belt cover and oil pressure sender at? Also agree with the guys saying relocate the air cleaner.

i havent tracked down a belt cover yet, was missing when i originally got the car. as as for the pressure sender, it died and was temporarily replaced with that lovely bolt. and yes i plan to get another, along with a new gauge.

Reply #10August 10, 2013, 05:01:17 pm

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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2013, 05:01:17 pm »
I have been driving these diesels for 5 years now, and never have I had a timing belt cover on them. All covers are off, makes a timing belt a dream-job lol. I'm also not an idiot, and I do not drive over debris..

Reply #11August 10, 2013, 05:35:35 pm

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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2013, 05:35:35 pm »
I have been driving these diesels for 5 years now, and never have I had a timing belt cover on them. All covers are off, makes a timing belt a dream-job lol. I'm also not an idiot, and I do not drive over debris..

I hope you never experience a failure. Here even driving 100% pavement you could see a failure as at any second a groundhog could run across the road and his head get caught in your TB. Anything, another belt get behind it and wear down.

You can have good luck as 8v did, but I would go the safe route as rebuilds aren't cheap :D

Reply #12August 10, 2013, 05:38:50 pm

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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2013, 05:38:50 pm »
Meh, maybe. The only open spot the the timing belt is really between the pump and cam, and a little bit between the cam and crank.

The V-belts weren't ever covered by anything, don't see them breaking all over the place lol

Reply #13August 10, 2013, 05:50:12 pm

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2013, 05:50:12 pm »
The v belts don't have to stay in time, and the timing belt doesn't need to break. I had a V belt jump off my a/c compressor and eat a hole into the TB cover on one of these. I had to replace the Timing belt as it was almost ready to break when I caught it. If I wouldn't have had the cover the engine would have been dead. I use them as the cover isn't the bad part of the TB job I don't think.

Reply #14August 10, 2013, 05:51:46 pm

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2013, 05:51:46 pm »
Well... I got lucky last week: my alternator belt decided to exit the engine bay and tried to take the WP belt with it. The WP belt flipped over but stayed on the pulleys until I got home. :-/

TB cover is essential in my book.

 

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