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August 05, 2013, 08:48:14 pm

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WTB 1.6 or 1.9 NA motor
« on: August 05, 2013, 08:48:14 pm »
Dont have time to rebuild or mess with a build right now.
Looking for a complete running 1.6 or 1.9 NA motor. 

I am looking at purchasing from Quality German Autoparts http://www.qualitygermanautoparts.com/index.php
Has anyone delt with these guys? 

Or better yet does anyone in the Northwest have recommendations for a shop or have an extra good runner laying around.
 Lol. 
Really though.....recommendations
'90 Jetta GL 1.6NA
'98 Jetta K2
'91 Isuzu p/u 4X4
'81 Caddy 2.0 ABA

Reply #1August 06, 2013, 03:55:32 pm

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Re: WTB 1.6 or 1.9 NA motor
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2013, 03:55:32 pm »
Quality German is "vwmotors" on ebay.

He has sold approx. 900 products with 100% positive. However, we all know THAT can be misleading.

If you are an ebay member, you can manage to contact some purchasers of his engines. Explain who you are and your situation (wanting to know true satisfaction or not) and some of his engine customers may be happy to answer you. If you don't know how to make this happen, let me know.

I have used this strategy many times in ebay and had people I've contacted respond about 3/4 of the time.

I have heard of good reports and I have heard of people complaining of really worn out (only 76,000 miles story in his ads) engines which they took delivery of. Can't remember if this was on this forum or vortex or where.

I've considered buying one of his engines, in the past. However, the freight involved always was the deal breaker. So.....I learned to rebuild my own stuff and couldn't be happier.  OK.....I could be happier if they were solar powered.........
The mask and the shot(s) are actually an IQ test. If you are wearing or circulating, you just failed the test. I can't feel sorry for you.

Reply #2August 06, 2013, 04:33:51 pm

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Re: WTB 1.6 or 1.9 NA motor
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2013, 04:33:51 pm »
I bought my 1.6 N/A from him and all went well for about 100 miles and then it started leaking oil from the head gasket. I called him and he said he would fix it but I needed to ship it to him that was not a option since I live in Georgia so he sent me a full gasket kit head bolts. I would recommend him to anyone. I plan on buying a 1.6TD from him in the near future.

Reply #3August 06, 2013, 06:47:52 pm

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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2013, 06:47:52 pm »
what's the chassis you'll be installing the motor in?
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Reply #4August 06, 2013, 08:30:53 pm

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Re: WTB 1.6 or 1.9 NA motor
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2013, 08:30:53 pm »
Going in to a mk2 Jetta.  Shes gone over 320k very happy miles and I just cant bear letting her die. I know that the 1.9NA or a 1.6td or 1.9td would give me more power etc.  however.  I dont drive fast and really dont care how quickly I get there.  I have found a 1.6na to be more then adequate for my driving style.  Just fast enough to get where I need to go.  And mpg that makes me smile everytime I visit the pump.  Plus it seems that turbo is the thing to do, and I always seem to go against the grain. So really leaning towards the 1.6na. A turbo just seems like one more thing to go wrong.  less is better in my book, want to keep it simple as simple can be.   
'90 Jetta GL 1.6NA
'98 Jetta K2
'91 Isuzu p/u 4X4
'81 Caddy 2.0 ABA

Reply #5August 06, 2013, 08:46:49 pm

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Re: WTB 1.6 or 1.9 NA motor
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2013, 08:46:49 pm »
Dakotakid, I do have ebay account, but dont know how to contact purchasers of his engines.  Can you help me out.   
'90 Jetta GL 1.6NA
'98 Jetta K2
'91 Isuzu p/u 4X4
'81 Caddy 2.0 ABA

Reply #6August 06, 2013, 10:24:28 pm

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Re: WTB 1.6 or 1.9 NA motor
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2013, 10:24:28 pm »
Sign in to ebay
plug "vw diesel engine" into a search
locate one of vwmotors units for sale (doesn't take long)
click on vwmotors feedback number
scroll down to find the past sale of one of his engine units
click on the buyer's handle (name)
go to "contact member" (left side)
"this message is not about an item" (clicked)
formulate friendly request to buyer of previous engine to enlighten you as to how good the engine was....."did you get burned?"
type in the code to release the message
wait for a response

No, I ain't going to promise you 100% response from the previous buyer....but, it has worked pretty well for me over the years.

Scroll down and make the request of several previous buyers. At some point, ebay stops you ability to send message...can't remember how many. Formulate your requests tactfully and wisely.......tada!
Sometimes, people are really willing to help and be heard. Some will be silent.
The mask and the shot(s) are actually an IQ test. If you are wearing or circulating, you just failed the test. I can't feel sorry for you.

Reply #7August 06, 2013, 10:40:21 pm

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2013, 10:40:21 pm »
vwmotors' (I forget the guy's first name) videos of him starting the engines is neat. But, you can never know whether or not he had the engine nicely running prior to making his "cold start" for the video. There's risk to everything in life. You might even drown in the bathtub!
The mask and the shot(s) are actually an IQ test. If you are wearing or circulating, you just failed the test. I can't feel sorry for you.

Reply #8August 07, 2013, 09:12:33 am

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Re: WTB 1.6 or 1.9 NA motor
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2013, 09:12:33 am »
 Why not put up a ad in KIJIJI for a whole car you would be able to hear it run and sell off whats left for scrap or parts ( i uselly make money on that part), there must be lots of old jettas or golfs out that way
 wherevery you buy from you will want to change the t/belt not knowing the quialty of it .
 I agree that a n/a is the way to go , i put a 1.6t/d in my caddy last year and lost about 6 mpg to the extra power from it that i use now .
 Good luck on your search.
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83 CADDY 1.9 AAZ SUMMER

Reply #9August 07, 2013, 01:26:25 pm

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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2013, 01:26:25 pm »
I have never seen the mileage difference in my cars turbo vs. non.

Right now I daily 1.6td fresh motor in my 79 rabbit.  Stock tires, fn tranny and stock fueling.  95% freeway with 60% of that stretch being at 75-80mph.  I am kind of in a rush so I rev the heck out of my car to get up to speed and pass people, etc.

I am getting 44mpg all day long.  My 85 jetta turbo or non turbo is right around the same with an acn tranny.
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Reply #10August 07, 2013, 04:52:27 pm

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2013, 04:52:27 pm »
i swaped in a 1.6 td hopeing for better mileage being more efficient with it getting more air but the power went up and they say power is not for free. was getting 47 now 41 avg. and i have adj timeing only thing that is different engine runs like a champ just mileage is down
83 CADDY 1.6 TD WINTER
83 CADDY 1.9 AAZ SUMMER

Reply #11August 08, 2013, 05:53:37 pm

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Re: WTB 1.6 or 1.9 NA motor
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2013, 05:53:37 pm »
i swaped in a 1.6 td hopeing for better mileage being more efficient with it getting more air but the power went up and they say power is not for free. was getting 47 now 41 avg. and i have adj timeing only thing that is different engine runs like a champ just mileage is down

The two engines, Naturally Aspirated or Turbo Charged with the same 1600CC displacement at the same RPM will consume the same amount of fuel.

Did you swap transmissions at the same time? You must drive it much harder now to see an average drop of 7mpg.. that is HUGE. Either that or you swapped in a tired 1.6TD with extremely high mileage.

Reply #12August 11, 2013, 08:26:46 pm

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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2013, 08:26:46 pm »
bin on holidays and gone tomorrow again, i have to agree with your logic, do not  know much history of the new engine but starts right up same as the old n/a did , does not use any more oil than the old n/a did (about a liter over the oil change cycle)next to no black smoke on a hard pull comparerd to the n/a. just alot more power that the n/a. I can pass and merg now with out tieing up traffic ( not that we have much traffic out this way). It was a just a engine swap and exhast out of the doner car cut to fit. i replaced the belt so the cam is timed right, i could / should check the pump timing agian  but it runnes great other than the fuel consumption. dont recall off hand what it is set to, dont have the bently handly but would you recomend something different than it?  on a side note, I see the pickups on e-bay claiming 60mpg (USA gallon) i have never seen anything near that, so whats up with that.
83 CADDY 1.6 TD WINTER
83 CADDY 1.9 AAZ SUMMER

Reply #13August 11, 2013, 08:35:04 pm

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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2013, 08:35:04 pm »
The book likely has you timed a little low, in the 0.90mm range.. I usually time them as advanced as possible before the loud clack sets in.

60mpg? NO. FRIGGAN. WAY. Impossible. I have seen Jetta's that were literally set up to be streamlined with long cones out the back (an added 10ft) with a belly pan, and covered wheels.. Pushing it to break the 57-60mpg mark.

Stock rabbit pick-up claiming the same? Lies. All of it. It would seem 40 +/- a few is average. 45 is exceptional, and 50+ is the holy grail.

Reply #14August 11, 2013, 10:22:04 pm

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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2013, 10:22:04 pm »
once back to the normal grind i will play the timeing game and see what happens. thanks , and will update.
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