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Reply #30July 26, 2013, 08:51:48 am

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Re: Who's built a powerhouse 1.6TD?
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2013, 08:51:48 am »
I ran across this. . .
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.php?p=3677136&postcount=3\
Basically says "100 HP is easy to make" - includes instructions ;)
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Reply #31July 26, 2013, 09:35:59 am

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Re: Who's built a powerhouse 1.6TD?
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2013, 09:35:59 am »
The 1V was the Eco and the worst engine to compare. I agree there is no replacement for displacement though.

If you want to build an engine and don't want to put a ton into it the 1.6 rods are probably the last thing I would ever replace. They are very robust, same with the crankshaft. On a 1.9 they are what I would replace first as they are not as thick as the 1.6 and they are longer, and the 1.9 has more force going to them.

To make a 1.6 a faster car you should look at all of the forum. It is quite easy, but we would really need to know your goals.

Reply #32July 26, 2013, 09:53:16 am

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Re: Who's built a powerhouse 1.6TD?
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2013, 09:53:16 am »
Funny, because the 1.9s are close to 3
$3000 down here.. How much did you think I was going to spend on my lil 1.6?

Engines cost $250 more than the lowest sale price anywhere in the country.  Anyway, you're probably right.  Do it your way.  Good luck.
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Reply #33July 26, 2013, 10:38:23 am

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Re: Who's built a powerhouse 1.6TD?
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2013, 10:38:23 am »
The 1V was the Eco and the worst engine to compare. I agree there is no replacement for displacement though.

If you want to build an engine and don't want to put a ton into it the 1.6 rods are probably the last thing I would ever replace. They are very robust, same with the crankshaft. On a 1.9 they are what I would replace first as they are not as thick as the 1.6 and they are longer, and the 1.9 has more force going to them.

To make a 1.6 a faster car you should look at all of the forum. It is quite easy, but we would really need to know your goals.

i endorse this message

i think the 1.9 bottom end issue is due to the longer stroke and more power/smaller turbo.
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Reply #34July 26, 2013, 05:53:21 pm

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Re: Who's built a powerhouse 1.6TD?
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2013, 05:53:21 pm »
We've dynoed 173whp on a bone stock 1V Ecodiesel bottom end and a stock AAZ head, easypeasy ;)

I have a 1.6td biturbo powerhouse in the making but don't recommend building anything similar to anyone, not cheap to say i mildly...
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Reply #35July 26, 2013, 11:52:58 pm

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Re: Who's built a powerhouse 1.6TD?
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2013, 11:52:58 pm »
So many posts to respond to.. I'll get to them later.

My goals are to build a beefy 1.6 that I daily.

Reply #36July 27, 2013, 01:05:44 am

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Re: Who's built a powerhouse 1.6TD?
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2013, 01:05:44 am »
If u do a 1.6 up with a ported head and upgraded intake with a modern turbo and performance injection pump, u may see impressive results
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Reply #37July 27, 2013, 04:08:16 pm

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Re: Who's built a powerhouse 1.6TD?
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2013, 04:08:16 pm »
If u do a 1.6 up with a ported head and upgraded intake with a modern turbo and performance injection pump, u may see impressive results

That's what I'm thinking, I'm not trying to build a rocket, just something that is reliable and can move.

Reply #38July 27, 2013, 07:08:53 pm

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Re: Who's built a powerhouse 1.6TD?
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2013, 07:08:53 pm »
Just bolt a performance pump on. Jessabug or rockerchick did that with their jetta and says it moves quite well.

Reply #39July 28, 2013, 01:48:44 pm

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« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2013, 01:48:44 pm »
Anyone ever thought about an HE211 sucking from an eaton MP45?

I want this setup in a 85 MR2
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Reply #40July 28, 2013, 08:24:22 pm

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« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2013, 08:24:22 pm »
Anyone ever thought about an HE211 sucking from an eaton MP45?

I want this setup in a 85 MR2

On a diesel or original engine???  U could do a much larger turbo if ur using a supercharger too
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Reply #41July 28, 2013, 08:49:18 pm

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« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2013, 08:49:18 pm »
But anything bigger is way out of the 1.6Ls efficiency. Unless others have used an HX35. That would be the next step up from the HE2xx size.
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Reply #42July 28, 2013, 10:00:28 pm

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« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2013, 10:00:28 pm »
Yeah but if you have a supercharger the efficiency changes.  The next step would be more like an hx30.
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Reply #43July 30, 2013, 06:23:03 pm

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Re: Who's built a powerhouse 1.6TD?
« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2013, 06:23:03 pm »
But anything bigger is way out of the 1.6Ls efficiency. Unless others have used an HX35. That would be the next step up from the HE2xx size.

HX35 series is WAAAAAY too big, even for a 1.9 diesel;  there just isn't enough flow to spool the huge turbine.  This of course is speaking of the turbo by itself, since I know of literally no one in the country who has made a super-turbodiesel.


Reply #44August 03, 2013, 04:19:32 pm

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« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2013, 04:19:32 pm »
But anything bigger is way out of the 1.6Ls efficiency. Unless others have used an HX35. That would be the next step up from the HE2xx size.

HX35 series is WAAAAAY too big, even for a 1.9 diesel;  there just isn't enough flow to spool the huge turbine.  This of course is speaking of the turbo by itself, since I know of literally no one in the country who has made a super-turbodiesel.

Not a VW to my knowledge but a Cummins and Duramax have been.
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