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May 23, 2013, 05:13:10 pm

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Hard line wear?
« on: May 23, 2013, 05:13:10 pm »
Anyone ever seen wear on the ID of the injector hard lines? Pump and injector side, looks vaguely like a torx socket.
Is not any sort of deposit.

These lines probably have a half mil on em if they are the set I think they are.
Wonder if that much fuel wore em?

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Reply #1May 25, 2013, 08:14:58 pm

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Re: Hard line wear?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 08:14:58 pm »
Maybe I have been lucky, but I have never had an issue with one hard line on the handfull of cars I have had over the past few years as daily drivers.  I just make sure to release all hard lines when timing and use the vibration dampners then tighten everything down.
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Reply #2May 25, 2013, 08:49:55 pm

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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 08:49:55 pm »
I once had a pinhole on one line... damn near invisible, but it was spraying aerosol diesel all over the engine bay. Seemed to be a void, the rest of the line was fine, so I flowed some bronze onto it and put it back in service.


Reply #3May 25, 2013, 09:07:41 pm

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Re: Hard line wear?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2013, 09:07:41 pm »
Yeah I've seen a few leak/crack but never noticed anything odd on the inlet/outlet.
Weird..
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Reply #4May 27, 2013, 07:46:49 am

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Re: Hard line wear?
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2013, 07:46:49 am »
I have had some crack over the years and the lines leak at the fittings from wear and age.

Prothe has a set for $14 that I have been running for 2 years with no issues so far.
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Reply #5May 27, 2013, 12:37:39 pm

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Re: Hard line wear?
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2013, 12:37:39 pm »
Might just buy some cheap as they are.
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Reply #6June 03, 2013, 01:27:08 pm

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Re: Hard line wear?
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2013, 01:27:08 pm »
I would advise against going cheap, I bought a cheap chinese one from ebay to replace a an old cracked original one. The new one cracked a week later in a different spot, with the anti-vib clips on. So I ponied up and bought a new set made in germany I think, and they've got probably 10k on them so far.
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Reply #7June 03, 2013, 03:57:04 pm

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2013, 03:57:04 pm »
I second the Prothe lines. Mine are still going strong after 200 k.
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Reply #8June 03, 2013, 05:04:02 pm

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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2013, 05:04:02 pm »
Not that I don't believe they could be crap, but I'd think it'd be hard at this late date to not be able to make a steel
line like that.
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Reply #9June 03, 2013, 08:47:59 pm

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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2013, 08:47:59 pm »
That's what I thought too when I bought it, how could they screw it up?
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Reply #10June 03, 2013, 10:50:01 pm

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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2013, 10:50:01 pm »
EAsy, you use a cheaper materiel til somebody calls you on it.
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Reply #11June 04, 2013, 04:50:52 am

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Re: Hard line wear?
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2013, 04:50:52 am »
Anyone ever seen wear on the ID of the injector hard lines? Pump and injector side, looks vaguely like a torx socket.

I see this very often. Probably 75% of the lines I see have some level of wear. I suspect it's either erosion or cavitation from air in the fuel
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Reply #12June 04, 2013, 08:18:15 am

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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2013, 08:18:15 am »
Anyone ever seen wear on the ID of the injector hard lines? Pump and injector side, looks vaguely like a torx socket.

I see this very often. Probably 75% of the lines I see have some level of wear. I suspect it's either erosion or cavitation from air in the fuel

That's all I could think of. Ever bothered to clean em up?

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Reply #13June 04, 2013, 11:50:38 am

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Re: Hard line wear?
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2013, 11:50:38 am »
I don't see any advantage to trying to clean them up. It's probably all the way through the lines.
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Reply #14June 13, 2013, 01:28:45 pm

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Re: Hard line wear?
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2013, 01:28:45 pm »
I have had some crack over the years and the lines leak at the fittings from wear and age.

Prothe has a set for $14 that I have been running for 2 years with no issues so far.

Are the Prothe set plated or do they rust?