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Am I a Dip stick ?
by
Kazuki
on 17 May, 2013 08:46
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am i missing something im pretty sure this isnt normal. is the bushing hold everything tight
? cause thats a lot of slop
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#1
by
Gizmoman
on 17 May, 2013 12:40
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There's a chance someone with more experience can tell what this is a picture of but I have no idea. From the title I'd guess it's a dipstick.
Either way whatever it is, it's obviously not a good fit. If it's a dipstick, I'd say it needs an o-ring or something is missing.
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#2
by
wolf_walker
on 17 May, 2013 12:53
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There is an 0-ring, that I went through the trouble of ordering the correct one for from VW, and it still leaked.
I ended up with High Torque silicone, regular RTV didn't last, to make the last one I had out quit leaking.
And it is kinda hard to tell how far in is correct, especially if the stick or brace had been bent before.
This is bothersome because it effects the reading on the dipstick.
I double checked mine afterwards by draining and adding a proper amount
of oil and noting the position on the stick.
If yours is bent at all, and you have the option, go find one that isn't bent, and
the fattest o-ring you can find that will slide in there to the stop, and seal it with
that High Torque gray silicone and you'll be done with it.
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#3
by
hillfolk'r
on 17 May, 2013 13:34
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Pretty much what he said
Hey i seen this somewhere i think it was AZ? Lol.
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#4
by
Kazuki
on 17 May, 2013 14:23
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OK so I just got some rubber o-rings and a copper washer she fits sung so I got some grey rtv and going to let her sit for 24 hrs
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#5
by
JamesT
on 17 May, 2013 15:28
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You are a dipstick, that looks terrible.
I would say you're trying to put a 1.6 dipstick into a 1.9. I just eyeballed it, and the 1.6 is about an 8mm and the 1.9 is about 10mm. No way that'll seal.
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#6
by
Kazuki
on 17 May, 2013 15:37
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You are a dipstick, that looks terrible.
I would say you're trying to put a 1.6 dipstick into a 1.9. I just eyeballed it, and the 1.6 is about an 8mm and the 1.9 is about 10mm. No way that'll seal.
ah but its a 1,6 block so .... will a 1,9 gas one work?
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#7
by
Gizmoman
on 17 May, 2013 16:06
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You are a dipstick, that looks terrible
hahahaha.
Seriously, isn't there supposed to be a tube of some sort sticking out of the block a bit? I had a long steel tube on the AAZ engine I'm installing in my Vanagon. As my application uses a filler tube that goes to the bottom of the 50 degree pan (with an intrregal dipstick in the cap), the stock tube isn't needed so I cut it off, tapped it and screwed in a bolt with red lock-tite on it.
I'm not familiar with 1.6's but me thinks there's something missing here.
I'd find a piece of tube (even copper) and force fit it into the hole, then slide the dipstick through that with an o-ring on it.
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#8
by
Kazuki
on 17 May, 2013 16:41
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You are a dipstick, that looks terrible
hahahaha.
Seriously, isn't there supposed to be a tube of some sort sticking out of the block a bit? I had a long steel tube on the AAZ engine I'm installing in my Vanagon. As my application uses a filler tube that goes to the bottom of the 50 degree pan (with an intrregal dipstick in the cap), the stock tube isn't needed so I cut it off, tapped it and screwed in a bolt with red lock-tite on it.
I'm not familiar with 1.6's but me thinks there's something missing here.
I'd find a piece of tube (even copper) and force fit it into the hole, then slide the dipstick through that with an o-ring on it.
^ i dont know why i dident think if that ... going to try that
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#9
by
wolf_walker
on 17 May, 2013 18:19
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That's a later 1.6 setup, all there is. Early one had pressed in tube. If the oring is about right and the tube bracket is bolted down it'll work. Some other leak will cover the sealant soon.
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#10
by
Gizmoman
on 17 May, 2013 19:13
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. . . I'd find a piece of tube (even copper) and force fit it into the hole, then slide the dipstick through that with an o-ring on it.
If you do find a tube that fits clean the id good and stuff it in there. Then smear some goo on the stick near the top and stuff it in there. Leave it sit overnight. In the morning you'll have a seal and the stick should pull out and leave the custom made seal inside the tube.
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#11
by
Kazuki
on 18 May, 2013 08:51
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Well so far no leaks will report back later :-
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#12
by
damac
on 18 May, 2013 11:09
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I used black stuff in that situation every time I put an engine back together. If I clean it, goop it and set it and then leave it alone to setup they have all been fine. Black stuff seems to setup nastier than regular rtv, I have used it on transfer cases, etc.
On another note I have been wondering if the turbo diesels dipstick that gets bolted to the ip bracket is supposed to stay inside the tube to read correctly, or should the tip be exposed?
I have a handfull of setups I got from existing cars and blindly put one back on my last block. But I can't read the oil level after a fresh oil change? My tip is not exposed and most of my setups have real long tubes. One of them has the tip being exposed.
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#13
by
8v-of-fury
on 18 May, 2013 11:36
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Just the tip.
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#14
by
hillfolk'r
on 19 May, 2013 10:19
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Just the tip.
Thats what i told her last night.
That car is an 85, so it has the (lets say) a mk1 style tube with bracket. Can a later tube be put in like from my 91? Its the pressed in deal. But for now hey it may be ugly but its workin.
I prefer the gray silicone for the oil related things.
