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March 24, 2013, 05:49:30 pm

kcfoxie

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Needed: diesel owners manual information
« on: March 24, 2013, 05:49:30 pm »
Hi guys,

I have lurked and posted infrequently on here for a while. I need the community's help...

I am writing a paper (the class project) for my business class on the two attempts Volkswagen has made to use US labor to produce cars. I need an excerpt that may or may not actually exist from an old Rabbit or Jetta manual. The story goes that my friend who has a rare 83 TurboDiesel Jetta said the owners manual made the reference that if the car got "remarkably below 44 miles to the gallon" that it needed service.

I need a scan (or camphone photo) of this page (along with any\all publisher info from the covers) to use a citation in my paper.

My dad has an 86, and that isnt in his manual. I have the 1984 EPA ratings for the Rabbit and it says 40/44, which is sufficient for my needs...but I dont know when (and cannot easily find out) the EPA started the fuel economy ratings program. So if prior to 1981 (when VINs were standardized, if I recall) the EPA didn't do fuel economy ratings, I need something more concrete. It also just sounds odd to cite an 84 model when taking about cars made in 78 (and there was a change from 78 to 84...).

If you'd like to read the work, or offer comments, I would be happy to share and listen.

Thanks!



Reply #1March 24, 2013, 06:07:23 pm

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Re: Needed: diesel owners manual information
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2013, 06:07:23 pm »
Foxie,

I remember reading something like that in the Bentley (service manual, not owners manual) but I have the owners manuals for an 1985 Jetta and Golf, and I will look at those as well. I am also in possession of an owners manual for the a Volvo 740 turbo diesel (I will sell it too, make offer).


Reply #2March 24, 2013, 06:13:47 pm

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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2013, 06:13:47 pm »
Foxie,

I remember reading something like that in the Bentley (service manual, not owners manual) but I have the owners manuals for an 1985 Jetta and Golf, and I will look at those as well. I am also in possession of an owners manual for the a Volvo 740 turbo diesel (I will sell it too, make offer).



Interesting. Either way, I need to know the source for validity purposes. Oh, god, no more Volvo Diesel... you can keep that. I'm out of the D24 business ...

Reply #3March 24, 2013, 07:06:54 pm

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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2013, 07:06:54 pm »
I remember reading something like that in the Bentley (service manual, not owners manual) but I have the owners manuals for an 1985 Jetta and Golf, and I will look at those as well. I am also in possession of an owners manual for the a Volvo 740 turbo diesel (I will sell it too, make offer).

Just peeked at my Dasher service manual (Bentley):
 "Table g lists six possible problems along with their probable causes and applicable remedies...

6. Excessive fuel consumption (markedly below 44mpg (19 km/l) in mixed traffic at tempeatures above 0oC (32oF)
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In the "Diesel Fuel Injections Troubleshooting",  Table g.


Volkswagen Dasher Service Manual
1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981
Including Diesel

(c) 1981 Robert Bentley, Inc.




My copy seems to marked-up by a pen-happy previous owner.  ::)

Reply #4March 24, 2013, 07:09:55 pm

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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2013, 07:09:55 pm »
You caught me at a good time, because I was just going through my stuff, and that included my car manuals.

I don't see it in the 1985 owner's manual, but it is in the Bentley, under diesel engine troubleshooting, and that's exactly what it says, if the car gets less than 44 mpg... and it suggests things like changing the air filter and checking the timing. I can scan it if you want.


Reply #5March 24, 2013, 07:20:26 pm

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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2013, 07:20:26 pm »
you guys are awesome! I think I can get the info I need to cite this from the web now.

Reply #6March 24, 2013, 07:33:40 pm

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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2013, 07:33:40 pm »
Mk1 rabbit bentley manual...