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Reply #195August 30, 2013, 06:08:30 pm

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« Reply #195 on: August 30, 2013, 06:08:30 pm »
140  ::)
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Reply #196August 31, 2013, 11:55:02 am

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« Reply #196 on: August 31, 2013, 11:55:02 am »
for some reason i think jetmugg doesent bealive in the power capabilities of this engines lol

140 hp was what i had with just k24 at 2 bar,intercooler and fuel turned all way up...
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Reply #197August 31, 2013, 12:06:55 pm

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Re: Time to start assembling 1.5 TD / 1.9L Franken Diesel.
« Reply #197 on: August 31, 2013, 12:06:55 pm »
I will be conservative I am sure at saying 190 hp.

 But as he says you can have a 1,000hp but the salt track it what matters when it comes to speed record.

Jetmugg get as many miles, pulls, and whatever else you can before you head out. My engine is nearing 1,000 miles and it is pulling harder the more miles I put on it.

Reply #198August 31, 2013, 06:44:24 pm

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« Reply #198 on: August 31, 2013, 06:44:24 pm »
I'd rather estimate low and have some "left over" power (at least from a peace of mind standpoint).

It's going to be a tough mental exercise to keep my foot to the floor for 3 straight miles. 

Looking at the tach, pyrometer, oil temp, water temp, etc., it's going to seem like an eternity.

I've seen plenty of dyno pull videos, most of them last about 10 seconds at power.

This will be more like 1-1/2 - 2 minutes on the floor, from a standing start.

Steve.


Reply #199August 31, 2013, 06:48:36 pm

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« Reply #199 on: August 31, 2013, 06:48:36 pm »
well, i will say, malone had a similar setup in his mk3 golf, it was a 1.6 rather than a 1.5, but other was very similar, i think his turbo was a hair smaller than your as well tho it was a gt20.  his awic wasn't even working, it was plumbed in but had no water in it, and he was able to do 140whp with a gtech, which reads lower due to wind resistance.  so like i said, as long as you are not shy with the boost and fuel, u will definitely exceed 140hp.  just keep your egt's safe and make us all proud at the salts!
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Reply #200August 31, 2013, 06:50:36 pm

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« Reply #200 on: August 31, 2013, 06:50:36 pm »
I'd rather estimate low and have some "left over" power (at least from a peace of mind standpoint).

It's going to be a tough mental exercise to keep my foot to the floor for 3 straight miles. 

Looking at the tach, pyrometer, oil temp, water temp, etc., it's going to seem like an eternity.

I've seen plenty of dyno pull videos, most of them last about 10 seconds at power.

This will be more like 1-1/2 - 2 minutes on the floor, from a standing start.

Steve.



maybe just try to stay conservative with temps, idis notoriously run hot.
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Reply #201September 01, 2013, 07:22:43 am

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« Reply #201 on: September 01, 2013, 07:22:43 am »
why not try to wind it up to a good speed,let it rest for a bit then hammer it the final(and recorded)miles?
i can go forever on the highway cruising above 160km/h without the temperatures go over 80ºC

or do you feel that you don't have enough space to get it to high speed without full throttle all the way from start?
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Reply #202September 01, 2013, 08:29:16 am

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« Reply #202 on: September 01, 2013, 08:29:16 am »
I think larger powered (still vw 4 cylinders) engines would labour to just casually get up to max speed in a short two miles.

80-90.. maybe no big deal.. but the record is only 105.581 mph. Clearly it is a hard thing to do.. I don't think it will be easy! BTU DAMN AM I EXCITED!

Reply #203September 01, 2013, 01:09:31 pm

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« Reply #203 on: September 01, 2013, 01:09:31 pm »
The current recordholder and the previous recordholder are both very well known names in Land Speed Racing, with somewhere in the range of 20 LSR records between them.

Guys like that know what it takes to get the most out of any vehicle/engine combination, and have many years of experience.

This will be my first time on the salt.

My goal is to be competitive against the existing record, and get as much speed as I can out of this thing.

I've got 2 transmissions and 2 sets of tires, giving me a total of 4 different final drive ratios.  I'm willing to switch anything and everything if I find that I can't "pull the gear" as I approach top speed.

Thanks for all the support and help, guys.

Steve.

Reply #204September 01, 2013, 05:17:38 pm

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« Reply #204 on: September 01, 2013, 05:17:38 pm »
Did you ever figure out if the one guy beat the said record earlier this year or not?

Reply #205September 01, 2013, 06:02:40 pm

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« Reply #205 on: September 01, 2013, 06:02:40 pm »
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This will be my first time on the salt.
Thats gotta be a great feeling, all the prep, the calcs, the work - this will be one of those unforgettable bits - best of luck!
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Reply #206September 01, 2013, 07:09:50 pm

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« Reply #206 on: September 01, 2013, 07:09:50 pm »
Did you ever figure out if the one guy beat the said record earlier this year or not?

He did not.  The guy had one run that would have qualified him for a record run, at 106.2 mph or something like that, but he didn't back it up with a second run.

I saw that he made something like 11 or 12 passes during SpeedWeek, and just had the one run over 106.

Here's a few more pics, it's getting very close now!





More than 1 person has suggested some kind of VW emblem on the hood.  I'm thinking of something like "Mopar Makes It, VW Shakes It"


Reply #207September 01, 2013, 07:29:31 pm

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« Reply #207 on: September 01, 2013, 07:29:31 pm »
Wow!  Your car looks so professional.  Very nicely done!  I think you have an excellent chance at breaking the record.  I would suggest adjusting your gearing so you're running around 5000 rpm at your estimated max speed.  Chances are the power will drop off quickly after that.  Good luck! 8)
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Reply #208September 01, 2013, 10:07:27 pm

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« Reply #208 on: September 01, 2013, 10:07:27 pm »
Bring some diesel purge too LOL. I know mine feels faster running a bottle of that in the tank, but it could melt you down as I don't know if it runs hotter or not.

Reply #209September 02, 2013, 02:24:05 am

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« Reply #209 on: September 02, 2013, 02:24:05 am »
I'd say SportWagwen badges  on the hood bulges carry both VW and Mopar heritage.
Do you have blanking  plates for the headlights?