So I'm building this AAZ.. Need some direction..

[CrazyAndy]

Do you guys think a girdle could be made? I have a buddy that is a welder/machinist at NASA that could prolly make them for cheap.

head girdle or main cap girdle?

Do they even make head girdles?  How would that even be done??

Also, another thing I just thought about: will you be coating any of your piston surfaces?  Swaintech does heat-resistant coatings for piston tops and frictionless coatings for skirts.  Food for thought.

[92EcoDiesel Jetta]

Is that going to be your stand alone tach? I should have a MK2 cluster with a W terminal diesel tach for sale soon. I think it'd be an improvement over the stand alone tach.

Ricer status! lol

No no like it should be I an airplane lol

Does it have a huge yellow shift light too? lmao

Nah

[Jagerauto]

Do you guys think a girdle could be made? I have a buddy that is a welder/machinist at NASA that could prolly make them for cheap.

head girdle or main cap girdle?

Do they even make head girdles?  How would that even be done??

Also, another thing I just thought about: will you be coating any of your piston surfaces?  Swaintech does heat-resistant coatings for piston tops and frictionless coatings for skirts.  Food for thought.

What's that cost about?

[theman53]

Depends on how much coating you go with. Swaintech does it. It ends up about 75.00 per piston. Audi technologies/Air cooled engines plus does it, but don't contact him until my head is done. He has had since last April. I want it to be done. But he has the same stuff as swaintech, but he doesn't charge as much.

[Jagerauto]

theman.. The block surfaces are machined they should be within a thousandth.

[8v-of-fury]

AAZ's did not come with 11mm, they came with 9mm like 1.5 and 1.6's.

11mm was Rover pumps, peugeot pumps, and ALH auto trans pumps.

I am unaware of ANY AAZ with an 11mm pump from stock.

North American Peugeot pumps  never came with an 11 mm pump to the best of my knowledge. They came with 9 or 10 mm. I happen to have one of each.

You might be right, I have touched to many to accurately remember.. lol The Peugeot is probably a 10mm.

[theman53]

Mine block surface was machined about 30 years ago. I can see lines that are over .020" from the factory fly cutter and worse from PO's scraping away. Like I said my oil pan is warped when I welded it about an 1/8" in a 1" span as well.
At some point you are separating fly crap from ground pepper. I am not saying that your idea of a mostly flat girdle is bad, but I think it is a bit not needed. The oil pan is not rotating mass, it only needs to seal. The stock aaz oil pan gasket or the stock 1.6 gasket is plenty is all I am saying. When you send this part to a universal grinder *I sell to people who do this with custom 3M abrasives* the cost will go up considerable. I am saying I would rather spend the money were it matters as I am a cost effective kind of guy. This IMHO doesn't matter if cold rolled is within .050" or whatever you said it is for the extra $$$. If the block is close to .001" as you say then the plate would conform to it in the first heat cycle.

End game for me is if you could get this done and flat as you want AND make it at 100 USD, yes I would gladly use it over a cold rolled for the same price. If yours was 250 USD then no way I would spend more coin to do so. It isn't that you are off on thinking the flatter the better, but I could guarantee anyone with 2/3 a brain and a new gasket could get cold rolled to seal perfectly.

[CrazyAndy]

Do you guys think a girdle could be made? I have a buddy that is a welder/machinist at NASA that could prolly make them for cheap.

head girdle or main cap girdle?

Do they even make head girdles?  How would that even be done??

Also, another thing I just thought about: will you be coating any of your piston surfaces?  Swaintech does heat-resistant coatings for piston tops and frictionless coatings for skirts.  Food for thought.

What's that cost about?

Depends on how much coating you go with. Swaintech does it. It ends up about 75.00 per piston. Audi technologies/Air cooled engines plus does it, but don't contact him until my head is done. He has had since last April. I want it to be done. But he has the same stuff as swaintech, but he doesn't charge as much.

Could you throw up a link for them?  Promise I won't contact them, though

And here's Swaintech's link: http://swaintech.com/race-coatings/diesel-engine-coatings/diesel-coatings-price-sheet/

And theman53, are you talking about where the girdle would seal to the block itself?  Didn't one of the Finns, either aki776 or MJF IIRC, use flush screws to secure the girdle to the pan sealing surface?  I'd think just with a thin bead of sealant and the torque of the flush screws/bolts would be enough for the girdle sealing.  After that just let the oil pan gasket deal with the rest.  If cold rolled flexes a little then it'll be fine for girdle work; I'd think a little flex in the metal is god for taking up some lower end vibration, or else too hard and it would crack like aluminum when struck.

[theman53]

Could you throw up a link for them?  Promise I won't contact them, though

no
Just don't search Air Cooled Engines Plus in Tiffin Ohio either. I will let you know when I have head and you can contact John there.