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Reply #15January 09, 2013, 11:44:28 am

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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2013, 11:44:28 am »
5% biodiesel is enough lube for ANY pump...

any ATF in your fuel is more than enough lube..

if your pump wont run right unless it has thick fuel in it, then its shot, and needs rebuilt, or more likely, just replaced because everything inside it is now worn beyond spec..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #16January 09, 2013, 01:12:38 pm

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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2013, 01:12:38 pm »
Lmao... Stubborn mule.

Reply #17January 09, 2013, 01:34:44 pm

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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2013, 01:34:44 pm »
5% biodiesel is enough lube for ANY pump...

any ATF in your fuel is more than enough lube..

if your pump wont run right unless it has thick fuel in it, then its shot, and needs rebuilt, or more likely, just replaced because everything inside it is now worn beyond spec..

AMEN BROTHA!

Reply #18January 09, 2013, 04:42:10 pm

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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2013, 04:42:10 pm »
Like tyb525 says it is the torque we drive not the HP. 

They only make the torque 500 rpm lower than their gasser brethren ;)

n/a's dont make torque...

what torque they do make, is @ 2500 revs..

I can tell this rabbit has more torque down low than a gasser. Even if the numbers don't show it, I can tell it does cause I have driven a gasser before. Diesel naturally have more low rpm torque than gas, even n/a diesels..
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Reply #19January 09, 2013, 07:22:22 pm

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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2013, 07:22:22 pm »
Be it a small bit or only 500 rpms you know you can get away with a shift to that higher gear and baby the acceleration to get it up to speed.  A diesel will pull it off where a gasser may buck and jump or stumble at the attempt.  Not to mention starve out on oil pressure.  That has been my experience so far.  I drive both gas and diesel and I sneak by without downshifting more often in the town traffic in the diesel.


Reply #20January 11, 2013, 12:14:33 am

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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2013, 12:14:33 am »
Be it a small bit or only 500 rpms you know you can get away with a shift to that higher gear and baby the acceleration to get it up to speed.  A diesel will pull it off where a gasser may buck and jump or stumble at the attempt.  Not to mention starve out on oil pressure.  That has been my experience so far.  I drive both gas and diesel and I sneak by without downshifting more often in the town traffic in the diesel.



what are you going to starve of oil pressure? and how are you going to accomplish it? the oil pump is pumping whenever the engine is running..

only time you really have to worry about starving the engine of oil, is extended high rpm operation.. not extended low rpm operation.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #21January 11, 2013, 12:25:11 pm

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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2013, 12:25:11 pm »
Hot oil is thin, and RPM is low so net result is ultra low pressure at the top of the engine and degrades through the engine from there or no?  Perhaps this is inverse to the engine in my ford that gets its oil up top first. I had the crank wear excessively and had to replace it. 

How did it wear out?  Driving in Overdrive at low speeds instead of downshifting to say 3rd gear.

Should have been rapping it up rather than down. 

Reply #22January 11, 2013, 04:33:05 pm

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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2013, 04:33:05 pm »
I dislike any engine design but that of the diesel VW 4cyl OHV water cooled ;)

Reply #23January 11, 2013, 04:35:25 pm

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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2013, 04:35:25 pm »
Man all those MPG lovers are ruining their engines, they all speak of the wonders of keeping engine rpm's as low as possible.
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Reply #24January 11, 2013, 04:38:45 pm

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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2013, 04:38:45 pm »
Cost me close to 1200 for the engine rebuild and I thought then, How many MPG did I save doing this behavior?  Not nearly enough as the crank went about 100K. 

Experience has taught me much and driving a little higher RPM over dogging it is one of the many lessons learned.  OIL won't move if a pump isn't pushing it around.

Reply #25January 14, 2013, 02:01:27 pm

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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2013, 02:01:27 pm »
alright well, a few hundred miles later, she cleared out

i think it was the friction material in the ATF that caused the problem.


Reply #26January 14, 2013, 04:23:13 pm

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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2013, 04:23:13 pm »
alright well, a few hundred miles later, she cleared out

i think it was the friction material in the ATF that caused the problem.



ive run my car on PURE atf without issues..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #27January 14, 2013, 04:24:28 pm

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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2013, 04:24:28 pm »
Pure black atf?

Reply #28January 14, 2013, 04:25:48 pm

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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2013, 04:25:48 pm »
Pure black atf?

it was far from brand new..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #29January 14, 2013, 05:24:51 pm

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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2013, 05:24:51 pm »
Oh well that gave my ip a heart attack lol.