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Transmission linkage needs rebuilt.
by
scrounger
on 16 Dec, 2012 09:08
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The transmission linkage on my Jetta is getting progressively sloppier. I have about 3-4" of for and aft movement in the lever once it is in any gear and only about 3/4" of side to side.
Reverse is now wanting to pop out so I hold it in, backing up. The ball at the shifter is all wallowed out. I have lubricated the linkage by adding some spray lube. That helps with effort but not sloppiness of course.
Do I replace the linkage parts from underneath or just reaching over the top? Looks like a long reach from above. I have seen some kits with spherical rod ends instead of bushings. Are they worth it?
Thanks for any link or help.
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#1
by
theman53
on 16 Dec, 2012 10:06
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Relay shifter ball
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#2
by
shorttimer
on 16 Dec, 2012 13:11
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Several years ago I went through all the linkage points & even fabbed up a few of my own pieces. Some of the key parts I got from Missing linkz. Got good adjust-ability & shifts like butta. Can't even imagine going back to the old shifting. The down side is you got to get in & do it, especially if you don't have a nice cozy place to work. The up side it you learn a lot along the way. You might even bead blast all the parts, repaint/powder coat, lube(obviously) & maybe even fab some sort of protection for some of the parts to keep them from elements & wear.
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#3
by
damac
on 16 Dec, 2012 15:17
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what car?
if its mk2 it is kind of a bastard because now is the time for you to just replace everything. lots of options out there from stock parts to aftermarket expensive adjustable stuff.
definitely look up a schematic before you buy the parts to make sure you get everything. some kits aren't actually complete. there is a bushing assembly at the shifter box itself to replace that isn't in some kits for some reason and I think its pricey.
for me I had to jack my jetta up in the air to get my fatt butt moving around ok. had to move the exhaust tunnel heat shield and do allot of coercing to get the shifter box/rod out.
once you replace all the parts just make sure whatever ball you go with fits just snug enough in its cage so things can move. don't know why but I have come across more than one car with this cage wollowed out. its real easy to get back into shape just lightly smack with a hammer until you like the fit.
I just did my rabbits linkage and it was way easier
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#4
by
scrounger
on 16 Dec, 2012 15:54
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Yeah sometimes I drive the car and say the shifting makes it a bit of a bastard.
It is my 86.
what car?
if its mk2 it is kind of a bastard because now is the time for you to just replace everything. lots of options out there from stock parts to aftermarket expensive adjustable stuff.
definitely look up a schematic before you buy the parts to make sure you get everything. some kits aren't actually complete. there is a bushing assembly at the shifter box itself to replace that isn't in some kits for some reason and I think its pricey.
for me I had to jack my jetta up in the air to get my fatt butt moving around ok. had to move the exhaust tunnel heat shield and do allot of coercing to get the shifter box/rod out.
once you replace all the parts just make sure whatever ball you go with fits just snug enough in its cage so things can move. don't know why but I have come across more than one car with this cage wollowed out. its real easy to get back into shape just lightly smack with a hammer until you like the fit.
I just did my rabbits linkage and it was way easier
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#5
by
bbob203
on 16 Dec, 2012 16:32
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I have a thread on it over in the upgrades sections. I have the best feeling mk2 shift linkage iver ever felt. An mk3 weighted shift rod is a must.
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#6
by
scrounger
on 27 Dec, 2012 13:26
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I really appreciate the advice on the part. I didn't happen to have one handy,
If I had a ball, I would have just fit it back on the stock arm.
I scrounged around and found that I had a chunk of 1" square steel tubing. It fit pretty tightly over the old worn ball. It helped but still had about 2" of fore and aft play. I looked around and found some 1.25" pvc electric conduit so I decided to reshape it to fit over the square tubing and to fit snugly in the shifter arm. I had used shoe goo adhesive to hold the parts together. I really like it. It's tuff and durable.
The "ball" now is 1.25" thick.
At any rate my shifter now is pretty good. It has about an inch of play in any gear. I don't have to hold the shifter in reverse any more.
I think I will look around for a roller bearing with a 1.25" OD.
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#7
by
scrounger
on 13 Jan, 2013 18:03
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Been driving the car with the homemade transfer ball. Seems to work a ton better. I was having trouble keeping it in reverse and was slipping out of 3rd. All is well now.
I have about 3/4-1" of side play when in gear and about 1 1/2 -1 3/4 of front to back play. Not truly precise but decent.
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#8
by
bbob203
on 13 Jan, 2013 18:47
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#9
by
scrounger
on 13 Jan, 2013 19:01
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Hi
Thanks for the link. I have found that the transfer shaft fits on the stock bushings pretty snug. I think most of the play is in the shifter ball at the bottom of the shift lever and also the bushing a few inches in front of the ball. It is all wallered out.
I haven't quite figured out how to get the spring clamps off of the turbo flange. Actually off wouldn't be as bad as putting them back on.
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#10
by
damac
on 13 Jan, 2013 22:06
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Hi
Thanks for the link. I have found that the transfer shaft fits on the stock bushings pretty snug. I think most of the play is in the shifter ball at the bottom of the shift lever and also the bushing a few inches in front of the ball. It is all wallered out.
I haven't quite figured out how to get the spring clamps off of the turbo flange. Actually off wouldn't be as bad as putting them back on.
Take one with you to local auto store and you can get appropriate exhaust clamp. Then you place it and just slowly and equally turn the bolts just to the point you can get them started in their grooves on the exhaust pieces.
Also I made the mistake of buying some aftermarket parts and bent them too easily. All the original vw parts that I have laying around I have been able to use that method multiple times and they still snug the exhaust up nicely
It will save you some annoying time getting them off if you use a crowbar or something to wedge and pry one side at a time
Wear safety glasses though. For whatever reason mine always have shot at underneath the car, but you never know.
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#11
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 14 Jan, 2013 06:14
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Hi
Thanks for the link. I have found that the transfer shaft fits on the stock bushings pretty snug. I think most of the play is in the shifter ball at the bottom of the shift lever and also the bushing a few inches in front of the ball. It is all wallered out.
I haven't quite figured out how to get the spring clamps off of the turbo flange. Actually off wouldn't be as bad as putting them back on.
Take one with you to local auto store and you can get appropriate exhaust clamp. Then you place it and just slowly and equally turn the bolts just to the point you can get them started in their grooves on the exhaust pieces.
Also I made the mistake of buying some aftermarket parts and bent them too easily. All the original vw parts that I have laying around I have been able to use that method multiple times and they still snug the exhaust up nicely
It will save you some annoying time getting them off if you use a crowbar or something to wedge and pry one side at a time Wear safety glasses though. For whatever reason mine always have shot at underneath the car, but you never know.
ive had those clamps put DENTS in my firewall before.. they are angry little springs.
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#12
by
bbob203
on 14 Jan, 2013 06:31
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#13
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 14 Jan, 2013 06:36
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also makes your shifter bushings last about HALF as long...
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#14
by
TylerDurden
on 14 Jan, 2013 06:54
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they are angry little springs.
True dat.... I rekon they could easily break a finger if they hit u right, coming off.
The muffler clamp really is about as good as the official tool. (I have both.)