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Reply #15December 11, 2012, 10:18:27 pm

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Re: Intermitent slow/no starting New problem...
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2012, 10:18:27 pm »
Just got home its as if my battery is totally dead as a door nail..
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Reply #16December 11, 2012, 10:22:41 pm

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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2012, 10:22:41 pm »
pardon the ignorance how does one perform a voltage drop test?
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Reply #17December 11, 2012, 10:28:26 pm

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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2012, 10:28:26 pm »
Recharge battery with external charger overnight.

Tomorrow, crank with a DMM black probe on the battery neg, use red probe on the other connections (starting with the battery pos) - see if/where it falls below 11V.

Bad connection to Batt or alt can fail to charge.


Reply #18December 11, 2012, 10:29:44 pm

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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2012, 10:29:44 pm »
Forgot to say disconnect the fuel cutoff to test cranking/voltage.

Reply #19December 11, 2012, 10:49:51 pm

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Re: Intermitent slow/no starting New problem...
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2012, 10:49:51 pm »
If your battery is dead, you probably have something drawing some amps that shouldn't be so I'd look into that first

Voltage drop test how-to
http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=22321.0
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Reply #20December 13, 2012, 11:27:39 pm

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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2012, 11:27:39 pm »
edit: and its kinda ghetto how its spliced in. Casing stripped of about 3/8 of an inch section and wire wrapped around it and taped up.

That is a legitimate wire splice, called a T-splice.



X3.8 on the voltage drop test.

Reply #21December 14, 2012, 12:09:06 am

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Re: Intermitent slow/no starting New problem...
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2012, 12:09:06 am »
Also might be worth your while to hit the starter solenoid output terminal with a jumper cable.  if it pulls 500 amp, and still hardly cranks with no load, the starter is the problem.
Obviously be in neutral just in case.

Reply #22December 14, 2012, 12:32:37 am

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Re: Intermitent slow/no starting New problem...
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2012, 12:32:37 am »
I have done a starter jump from the engine bay with the car in gear.. WOOWEE she jumps forward with a gut lurch when your leaning on the core support! lmao

Reply #23January 05, 2013, 05:07:27 am

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Re: Intermitent slow/no starting New problem...
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2013, 05:07:27 am »
can someone explain this starter jumper test deal better?
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Reply #24January 05, 2013, 09:27:09 am

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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2013, 09:27:09 am »
You can energize the starter by jumping +12 to the starter solenoid small terminal... but if the car is in gear, it can run u over.


Intermittent slow crank is usually poor connections, bad bushing, worn brushes/commutator.

Dead battery is usually bad connections, lose belt, old battery, persistent current draw (short, stuck relay).

Reply #25January 06, 2013, 08:39:06 pm

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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2013, 08:39:06 pm »
Welp new battery, Big fat 2ga negative terminal grounded to the transmission bellhousing bolt. Tightened belts and Im firing off in half a crank. 1000ca 850cca battery group 34/78 dual terminal options on it. I think i may run a nice big wire from my alt to my battery via the positive side post.

I think my problem was a really wimpy ground causing bad voltage drop causing weak cranking and heating up wires all through the car.

As soon as i got it all hooked back up 1 cycle of the glowplugs no cs lever 34 degree it spun right up as if it hadn't been sitting lifeless for a month.
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Reply #26January 06, 2013, 09:05:40 pm

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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2013, 09:05:40 pm »
Love it, great success story! :) I too just got a 34/78 (1050CA 875CCA) and it spins the engine so DAMN fast.

My up and coming upgrades will also include;

  • Big gauge battery cables
  • Remove the starter and clean up the starter to trans mating surface
  • Big body to battery ground
  • Bigger gauge between alternator and battery (being that I have a 120A alternator.. it stands to pass quite the amount of current!)
  • An entire tube of die-electric grease ;)