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December 06, 2012, 06:45:36 pm

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Double Cab TDI?
« on: December 06, 2012, 06:45:36 pm »
So I have read lots of info on swaping out a gas engine out of a gas vanagon or doka but not too much on upgrading an already diesel vw.  Ive got a 88 Doka that originaly came with a 1.6TD, the engine went and I upgraded to a 1.9TD.  Now the 1.9TD is on its way out and I am looking at putting in a 1.9TDI.  I understand about the electrical end of things for the change over and the engine will bolt up to the transmission, but do I jump the line with other modifications because the doka was already diesel?

Reply #1December 06, 2012, 07:23:10 pm

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Re: Double Cab TDI?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2012, 07:23:10 pm »
Other than the engine management and style of injection, the AHU is the same engine as the AAZ.  The AHU came with an intercooler stock but I'd recommend one on either engine.  Other than that it's a bolt-in affair.  The mounts are already all present.  The trans gearing will be short for the TDI.  Starting with a diesel van makes it a little easier, but it's not all that hard to convert a gasser van either. 

Reply #2December 23, 2012, 07:32:19 am

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Re: Double Cab TDI?
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2012, 07:32:19 am »
All I want for xmas is a 2wd doka Tristar with an AHU mounted upright with water to air IC and a syncro trans so I can have a locking diff. Thats all, is that too much to ask???
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Reply #3January 02, 2013, 10:48:29 pm

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Re: Double Cab TDI?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2013, 10:48:29 pm »
You'll want to read this...

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=486542&highlight=aaz+intercooler

AAZ install, but lots of DOKA porn.  ;D





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Reply #4January 03, 2013, 03:11:19 pm

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Re: Double Cab TDI?
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2013, 03:11:19 pm »
^

Now: 00 2dr Golf TDI, 03 Jetta Wagon TDI, 02 2500HD Duramax - :)
Then: 69 SC Transporter, 84 Rabbit GTI, 87 Fox GL, 91 Golf IDI, 96 Passat Wagon TDI, 97 Jetta IDI - :(
"Everything I save by driving diesel I put back due to poor German engineering and crappy Mexican workmanship!"   :P

Reply #5January 04, 2013, 10:11:26 am

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Re: Double Cab TDI?
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 10:11:26 am »
HEY!! thats Tonys truck! hes part of our forum..

saw that thing in person, along with 2 other dokas (one of them was Josh's Doka) and a vanagon..

3 were diesel, josh's is gas. the green one has a full-on TDI install.. upright even. tonys engine is on its side.. the blue van was just a stock 1.6D..









« Last Edit: January 04, 2013, 10:15:13 am by R.O.R-2.0 »
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #6January 04, 2013, 03:51:51 pm

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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2013, 03:51:51 pm »
Yes.  Oh god, yes.  Love me some big VWs with diesels in them.  Makes me wanna convert me Bay Window to MTDI;  getting tired of your sh!t, aircooled engine! :)


Reply #7January 04, 2013, 09:58:45 pm

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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2013, 09:58:45 pm »
Yes.  Oh god, yes.  Love me some big VWs with diesels in them.  Makes me wanna convert me Bay Window to MTDI;  getting tired of your sh!t, aircooled engine! :)

I want a 21-window, rag top, M-TDI, on BAGS... my ultimate dream.

Reply #8January 12, 2013, 06:09:16 am

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2013, 06:09:16 am »
Yes.  Oh god, yes.  Love me some big VWs with diesels in them.  Makes me wanna convert me Bay Window to MTDI;  getting tired of your sh!t, aircooled engine! :)

I want a 21-window, rag top, M-TDI, on BAGS... my ultimate dream.

STOP MAKING ME WANT TO TAKE OUT A 60K LOAN!!   :-X ;D  And yes I want bags on my ratty bay also.


Reply #9January 12, 2013, 04:59:32 pm

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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2013, 04:59:32 pm »
That green truck is a Jagdwagen... a special edition Doka put together by VW for country gentleman hunters. The lower treasure chest contains a slide-out gun rack, and all that external bracing, winch, lights etc. is factory equipment. Rare truck!










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Reply #10January 14, 2013, 07:56:00 am

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Re: Double Cab TDI?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2013, 07:56:00 am »
That green truck is a Jagdwagen... a special edition Doka put together by VW for country gentleman hunters. The lower treasure chest contains a slide-out gun rack, and all that external bracing, winch, lights etc. is factory equipment. Rare truck!












that truck just got a WHOLE lot cooler...
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #11January 14, 2013, 03:22:43 pm

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Re: Double Cab TDI?
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2013, 03:22:43 pm »
any photos of the alh powered DOKA's oil pan? ???
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Reply #12January 15, 2013, 02:18:16 pm

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Re: Double Cab TDI?
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2013, 02:18:16 pm »
HEY!! thats Tonys truck! hes part of our forum..

saw that thing in person, along with 2 other dokas (one of them was Josh's Doka) and a vanagon..

3 were diesel, josh's is gas. the green one has a full-on TDI install.. upright even. tonys engine is on its side.. the blue van was just a stock 1.6D..




Just a quick schooling.  ;D Check out Josh's license plate.  SinKa.  Single cab.  DoKa.  Doppelkabiner.  That build of Tony's was a serious one.  Nice quality and attention to detail for sure.

Reply #13January 25, 2013, 07:42:13 pm

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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2013, 07:42:13 pm »
any photos of the alh powered DOKA's oil pan? ???

no, but i imagine its just a regular FWD automotive pan.. the engine was not 100% upright, it was still leaned over a little bit, maybe 15* or so..

and it doesnt require the pan-mounted oil check/fill spout, because the oil cap is not sideways..

i dont remember seeing the long oil fill spout on the ALH powered Doka..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #14January 26, 2013, 06:08:50 pm

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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2013, 06:08:50 pm »
Yeah, the Doka looks like he's running a KEP adapter plate.  The KEP plates angle at about the same as a transverse setup, so you don't have to change anything on the engine if you swap in an engine you pull out of a golf or therabouts. 

What I'd like to know is what he did for his accelerator pedal, as he would have had to mount the electric pedal assembly as well as run a really long  wire extension.  Add that to the pain of disabling/hiding the immobilizer, so props to him for making it all work.  There's a guy in the local Madison VW cruisers club with a baja bug running an ALH; his ECM and gauge cluster are hidden in a box.